Christmas lockdown?

I'm sorry you're having a down day today Lucca; I think most of us feel as you do. We all want to see our families, especially at Christmas and the majority of us have sacrificed so much already and yet are prepared to sacrifice still more to try and bring this damned pandemic to an end. It does sting that some are admitting that their needs and wishes are more important than anyone else's and they're quite prepared to take circuitous routes, and break the law in order that they have what they want and be damned to anyone else. But ultimately, we can only control our own actions and hope that that's enough to keep us, and the selfish ones, safe.

Camomile, Callistemon? I need something stronger than thst.

Lucca you’re so right - posting on here with detailed information about your planned rule breaking for Christmas and how it will make you feel better can be damaging to the mental well being of others and especially those facing Christmas on their own. Complete and utter selfish GFery of the lowest order.

Good posts Marydoll and Lucca, I agree.

Everybody’s mental health is important. I’m feeling dreadful today as it happens and I’ll probably be alone at Christmas but so what? I wouldn’t dream of having a lot of people from different households in the house. This attitude is one of the things contributing to how I feel today, that this will not end as they say anytime soon, I’ll not be able to see my son in Australia. So I guess, bait taken.

Yes good to see you back MawB2 the 2 is still there Namsnanny

And ill post the gifts if i have to!

Nice to see you posting MawB (have you lost the 2?)

For me too, Christmas with my family is good for my mental wellbeing. However, in my opinion the physical wellbeing of myself, my family and those we may come in contact with supercedes everything. No point worrying about your mental wellbeing if Covid has killed you.

It appears that Nicola Sturgeon is planning to introduce even stricter guidelines across the Central belt on Friday. Anyone who flaunts those guidelines is nothing short of irresponsible and reckless.
If everyone does what they are asked, there may just be a slim chance that we will see our families at Christmas.
We have tried so hard to do what is right in the last months, but I feel that effort has all been for nothing.

I usually just go a couple of days or so before xmas to drop off gifts- have short 1hr visit with different older 'children' & GC, then back home for a xmas with the 2 youngest still at home 17&now 22today!) But last yr we arrived,(22nd dec) i slipped& took a fall so straight off to a 3hr wait in a&e to check im okay so got about a 10minute visit to them all to drop presents.on 23rd i was ill so was at G.P. surgery (not head- bang related) then tablets made me really sick and then by xmas day i was so bad paramedics sent me to a&e and then i was back again on boxing day as paramedic ladies took me straight in! All in very early hours of both mornings! (Turns out it could very well have been covid 19 the G.P.s nurse has since said) So a nice quiet christmas at home with my 2 lads please for me this year! ??

It’s perfectly possible to plan for Christmas and get real pleasure from that without those plans including deliberately flouting rules and guidance and threatening the lives, health and welfare of other people.

MawB caring and sensible post x ?

Planning for Christmas is a huge part of the enjoyment - there is a saying “it is better to travel hopefully than to arrive” and the Christmas preparations are all a major part of it - the mince pies, the cake, decorating the tree - often evoking the bittersweet memories of Christmases past .
So your Christmas Eve afternoon baking sounds perfect FH, Providing for and giving to those we love is what it is all about, isn’t it? I hope you will be listening to the Festival of Lessons and Carols while you are doing it and getting into the Christmas spirit.
The big difference this year is that many of us will have to factor in a Plan B and must not get downhearted if circumstances spoil our plans.
So if we can’t all be together this Christmas, let’s hope that that’s so that we can all be here next!
(I’d be happy enough with an Xmas pud for 2 Daisymae but as for many others here it’s more likely to be a turkey dinner for one. )

Oh, this virus just loves a party so, let’s all meet up on Christmas Day, the virus won’t be needing an invitation!

FH you only said what some people will be doing anyway and worse. Not sure what the penalties would be if caught but you are aware of that. Christmas seems to be so important for your mental welfare. There could very well be an easing off of restrictions for that period anyway. Take care x?

I think Nanny Drakeford is trying to save Christmas by cancelling Halloween and Guy Fawkes.

I agree with Franbern. There is not much hope of people complying with any sort of restriction on Christmas Day itself so its better to legitimise it. I fully expect a total or almost total lockdown in Jan/Feb. A small ray of hope is that due to extra extra infection control procedure in place for Covid-19 the 'usual' outbreaks of Norvirus in hospitals and care homes may be far less than in other years. Here's hoping for a vaccine in early 2021.

I am expecting there to be a lifting of Tiers 2 and 3 in December to encourage greater spending for Xmas. Then, probably a lifting 'holiday' for the actual Christmas period (with an appeal for people to be 'careful' - like most are not the rest of the time_. Then, surprise, surprise increase infection rates causing imposing of Lockdown for January and February - all this government knows is this sort of In/Out hokey-cokey!!!

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I’m bah humbug about Christmas so would be perfectly happy if it was cancelled. My children will give their children a great time whether I’m there or not!

polnan

well there is a lot of talk that "lockdowns" don`t work..

so I keep thinking,,, well what else can I do.... perhaps if only,
IF ONLY, everyone would obey, the social distancing etc.. there would be no need for lockdowns?

what do you think? I am not an unintelligent person, but this beats me!

polnan speaking as some one who is just starting to emerge from a 12 week lockdown I disagree with those saying lockdowns don't work.

I know our cases are nowhere as large as yours nor our population. I'm in Victoria Australia and we, through a stuff up by the Government with their quarantine supervision, have had a second wave break out. Our new cases rose to 723 on one day when the government placed strict lockdown restrictions on us. Now about 11 or 12 weeks later we are recording new case numbers in single numbers or as today zero. I have no doubt that without this lockdown we would have been facing much higher numbers. That is not to say I was happy about the lockdown but a case of needs must.

Why on Earth are people worrying about Christmas?Who knows where we will be then.
For the first time in very many years I have found myself unable to sleep and have got up and made a mug of tea.
All being well ,Friday will be my 80th birthday.
How will I be spending it?
Well hopefully I will be going with my husband to hospital where he has two appointments .
What will be my birthday meal?
I am not going to cook.
I plan to send out for fish and chips when we return.
Ubereats
Any cards and presents I may get will be opened in the evening hopefully.

When I hear people whinging about not seeing grandchildren for 6months ,it really gets my goat.
I keep thinking about that poor man whose wife and three of his children were killed in a car accident recently .
We should count our blessings.

It would be just one Christmas lockdown. We do as asked and hope to the best.

I must put camomile tea on my grocery order, thanks for the reminder Illte.

Christmas here is normally frantic. Family and grandkids usually arrive from Asia to stay early December till early January. Bedlam but fabulous. Have cooked lunch for 14 last few Christmases. Hard work but great fun. Will obviously be much quieter this year so will be interesting to see how it goes. Thank goodness for technology and that we can all see and speak to each other.