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Wales in Lockdown

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Callistemon Fri 23-Oct-20 22:38:34

I can go into a supermarket and buy exotic fruit, vegetables from thousands of miles away, fizzy drinks, crisps, cream, chocolate, wine, spirits etc.

But I'm not allowed to buy a birthday card for my DGC because that is "non-essential".

AIBU if I think this is all somewhat bizarre?

NannyG123 Sun 25-Oct-20 10:56:51

I saw books were marked as non-essential. To me books have been my saviour, as a person who prefers books to kindles. I have been reading about 3 books a week. Sometimes in doors, sometime in a cafe. Who's to say what's essential and what isn't.

Callistemon Sun 25-Oct-20 10:28:24

The problem is, Barmeyoldbat, unless the virus mutated and became less dangerous or a safe, effective vaccine becomes available soon, people will revert to what they were doing before a 17 day lockdown ie going to pubs and clubs, socialising, ignoring guidelines and the 17 day lockdown would have been a waste of effort.
The places with high incidences were locked down anyway, those people who were concerned about themselves and others were careful and, as LauraNorder points out, some areas had few if any cases.

More money should have been given to the NHS and the Forces, who are also able to cope with emergencies, should have been called in as backup.

As soon as the lockdown is lifted, some people will just revert to their previous irresponsible behaviour and it may result in another lockdown at Christmas.

lemongrove Sun 25-Oct-20 10:17:19

Laura that pic and caption made me laugh?

MawB2 Sun 25-Oct-20 10:17:05

I have just heard that in response to the outcry, Mark Drakeford has agreed to “review” what may or may not be sold in supermarkets.
Good, but why don’t they think these things through first ?

lemongrove Sun 25-Oct-20 10:13:59

LauraNorder

Anglesey has very low infection rates. Our economy is almost totally reliant on tourism. We lost March to July. Small businesses were just getting back on their feet having spent a fortune to make themselves compliant. We all wear masks, we try to support our communities now that the tourists have gone and Mark Drakeford decides to lockdown everywhere. This makes no sense.
As far as not buying cards or kettles in Tesco out of fairness to small business, ludicrous. If I need a card or a kettle I’ll have to go on line so the money that would have gone in to an Anglesey supermarket has now gone elsewhere. That affects local jobs. It might be only 17 days but people could in that time decide online shopping is easier and never come back to the high street.
Mark Drakeford is a silly man. He should have given localised lockdowns a chance to see if it worked before shutting down the whole economy.
I’m so frustrated at the stupidity.

Good sensible post?
People will buy online all the time.

lemongrove Sun 25-Oct-20 10:10:07

That may be the case Barmey if people haven’t stuck to the rules in England, but at the same time...if Wales goes back into tier 1/2 who knows how long before things slide again?

Barmeyoldbat Sun 25-Oct-20 10:01:38

Its for two weeks, not a lifetime. It will be interesting to compare when the time is up how well Wales has done against Boris and his stupid way of dealing with it. My guess is Wales will have gone done a whole load and England will still be struggling.

BlueSky Sun 25-Oct-20 08:50:28

I’m sure if such ‘non essential items’ had been allowed in supermarkets, people would have said it wasn’t fair to retail shops which had to close. But looks as if they are going to have a rethink on this matter anyway.

growstuff Sun 25-Oct-20 02:06:59

sharon103

I don't mean a great big saucepan. A milk saucepan with a lip with a cup full of water in it for a hot drink. No different from boiling vegetables and draining them surely.
A hot drink can be made in a microwave if need be.

Some people just like to be difficult! Of course you can boil water in a small pan.

Summerlove Sun 25-Oct-20 01:46:45

Fernhillnana

I don’t think alcohol and tobacco are essential. People won’t die if they don’t have them.

This is an uniformed view point

Some people absolutely would die without.

sharon103 Sun 25-Oct-20 01:15:20

I don't mean a great big saucepan. A milk saucepan with a lip with a cup full of water in it for a hot drink. No different from boiling vegetables and draining them surely.
A hot drink can be made in a microwave if need be.

Curlygirl Sun 25-Oct-20 00:38:28

Can see an increase in burns and scalding accidents with people heating water in saucepans and therefore an increase in people needing A&E. Obviously Health and Safety has been overlooked!

Chewbacca Sun 25-Oct-20 00:36:46

And I can use the steam from the pan of boiling water to generate energy to power up my laptop! Genius! Why didn't I think of that!

sharon103 Sun 25-Oct-20 00:28:28

A simple solution if the kettle packs up, boil water in a saucepan on the stove for a cuppa.

Chewbacca Sun 25-Oct-20 00:27:08

Is a laptop essential or non-essential, that is the question

For those who work from home, it is an essential item. If mine went kaput, I'd be out of a job.

growstuff Sun 25-Oct-20 00:23:07

LauraNorder

I do agree Callistemon, oh dear moonpig it is then, I know I should have prepared but hey ho, better hope the kettle doesn’t pack up.

But stationery, including birthday cards, are classed as essential items. hmm

Oopsminty Sun 25-Oct-20 00:08:35

Looks like they may be having a rethink

It's just absurd and all because there's a man on a mission to appear big and powerful

He's just made himself look a right silly-billy

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/24/welsh-government-urged-to-drop-ban-on-sales-of-non-essentials

Callistemon Sat 24-Oct-20 23:57:32

Is a laptop essential or non-essential, that is the question.
Whether 'tis for games or for schoolwork should answer that conundrum.

Chewbacca Sat 24-Oct-20 23:57:02

these big wigs need to shop for common sense! Now that is essential

No chance Willitwork, that was completely sold out a couple of years ago.

Willitwork Sat 24-Oct-20 23:48:00

Surely non essential shopping is browsing for a new sofa or computer.....these big wigs need to shop for common sense! Now that is essential!

LauraNorder Sat 24-Oct-20 23:35:36

I do agree Callistemon, oh dear moonpig it is then, I know I should have prepared but hey ho, better hope the kettle doesn’t pack up.

Callistemon Sat 24-Oct-20 23:25:20

It may well be the final nail in the coffin for small local shops and businesses and tourist attractions in places like the Forest of Dean rely on local visitors during thisg half term.
They have taken all precautions, spent hundreds if not thousands of pounds on safeguarding but half term will see no visitors from safe areas over the border.

Of course, places with high rates of COVID should continue in lockdown until their numbers reduced and control gained.

LauraNorder Sat 24-Oct-20 23:17:14

We will never know what Carwyn would have done but labour do seem to be in favour of total lockdown or brake.
I suppose none of us know what will work best but personally I’d rather try the gentler measures before going to the extremes.

LauraNorder Sat 24-Oct-20 23:13:17

Anglesey has very low infection rates. Our economy is almost totally reliant on tourism. We lost March to July. Small businesses were just getting back on their feet having spent a fortune to make themselves compliant. We all wear masks, we try to support our communities now that the tourists have gone and Mark Drakeford decides to lockdown everywhere. This makes no sense.
As far as not buying cards or kettles in Tesco out of fairness to small business, ludicrous. If I need a card or a kettle I’ll have to go on line so the money that would have gone in to an Anglesey supermarket has now gone elsewhere. That affects local jobs. It might be only 17 days but people could in that time decide online shopping is easier and never come back to the high street.
Mark Drakeford is a silly man. He should have given localised lockdowns a chance to see if it worked before shutting down the whole economy.
I’m so frustrated at the stupidity.

Callistemon Sat 24-Oct-20 23:09:54

Oh dear.
I always thought of him as a kindly headmaster type.

I wonder what Carwyn would have done?