Wales in Lockdown

Not sure if anyone has mentioned the young man, ripping plastic sheets off items.

Children's clothes? What's that all about? Cards? Candles?
I don't understand the logic.

And as has been mentioned, lots of alcohol available. How is alcohol essential?

It's madness and, as I've said before, all that will happen is people will turn to Amazon.

Madness

I wish I'd never mentioned the birthday card!

It's not the actual birthday card (I've ordered one), it is the question of what is considered essential and what is not.
The fact that we live in an area with barely any cases at all and were not allowed to venture into areas which were locked down anyway - unless going to work or visiting the hospital.
If everyone had acted sensibly it might never have come to this.

Yes it supposed to make it fair to shops but it will just put more people using amazon or Moonpig etc.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

This is ludicrous - Welsh residents have my sympathy. During full lockdown if a shop sold essential items then they could also sell any other items they happened to stock - which seems perfectly reasonable to me. Sounds like the Welsh government is on a power trip - hope you all make them pay for it at the next election!

Aren't governments supposed to have power and exercise it?

Nanof3

The Welsh windbag is on an ego trip as is Mrs Krankie up north.

I got deleted for using that term for the FM of Scotland.

This ‘essentials’ idea is ridiculous. There are all sorts of reasons why you might need new bedding (illness) or a new saucepan (overheating incident) or a new kettle.

It’s all very well to say buy online, but that costs extra money for p&p. Then in six months time there may well be complaints about how the local high streets are dead and the surrounding roads full of delivery vans.

I can’t believe I’m reading some of this! The welsh government has made a ruling that they believe will slow down the frightening rise in Covid cases. It is for 17 days! Surely we can manage 17 days without new clothes and electricals.
We have had several days notice so we have time to prepare.
I fail to understand why anybody is in such dire need of a new toaster or why someone’s child cannot cope without a new coat for two weeks when they are not going anywhere anyway.

I'm sure the people of Wales will manage just fine with the restrictions They are historically very resilient people

I think all shops should be allowed to open as long as the correct safety procedures are followed - masks, distancing, hand sanitising etc!

If people cannot go without buying non essential items for two weeks, yes that’s right two weeks all I can say is shame on them.

But I'd like to know why an area with no cases is in lockdown and businesses forced to shut. Areas that had cases in Wales were locked down anyway.

Dyffryn

If people cannot go without buying non essential items for two weeks, yes that’s right two weeks all I can say is shame on them.

Do you live in Vale, Dyffryn?
Perhaps your area has a lot of cases because people behaved irresponsibly.

Dyffryn

If people cannot go without buying non essential items for two weeks, yes that’s right two weeks all I can say is shame on them.

Who decides what’s essential and what’s not?

That is the essence of the thread, SueDonim but some posters do not seem to have realised that.

Is chocolate essential?
Coca Cola?
Beer, wine, spirits?
Crisper and snacks?

Not in the opinion of many people but in the eyes of Mark Drakeford et al, yes.

However, buying children's winter clothes and shoes when they are off school during half-term is not essential, apparently.

I thought the concept of my OP was clear enough - apparently not. ?

Autocorrect doesn't like crisps apparently

It would appear that the sale of stationery, including birthday cards, is allowed.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54676457

Quite, Callistemon. They’ve also not taken into account that it is pay day for many people around now, which is when people, especially those on a budget, plan to buy their non-grocery stuff. Half term was useful for buying winter clothes and shoes etc.

I see there are thousands of signatures asking for a reconsideration of this cack-handed move.

I feel sorry for that young mum in Merthyr, who's child needs new shoes but she's had to wait until her wages go into her bank account to be able to buy them. Now that she's been paid, she's not allowed to buy them.
I agree with others who question why crisps, coca cola, cigarettes and alcohol is considered a necessity, but children's clothing is not.

Olive53

We are being controlled, and the sooner some people realise this the better. People being tested for Covid, as they have symptoms and guess what, they all wore a mask. Which begs the question.........do masks work. Imo, no they don’t. Have seen some people in their car, on their own wearing a mask.
What has been washed more in 2020, hands or brains
In 2008, Dr Anthony Fauci co-authorised a paper about the Spanish flu epidemic that swept the world in 1918. So in studying this major pandemic what did Dr Fauci find
They discovered that most of the victims of Spanish flu didn’t die from the flu, they died from bacterial Pneumonia caused by. The wearing of masks!!!!
The intention then, as now was to halt the spread of the virus by wearing masks
For goodness sake, remove the muzzle and go back to some sort of normality

Dr Fauci now thinks that the wearing of masks should be compulsory.

www.marketwatch.com/story/dr-fauci-says-if-people-are-not-wearing-masks-then-maybe-we-should-be-mandating-as-new-us-covid-19-cases-hit-85000-2020-10-24

It's two weeks - get over it!

Chewbacca

I feel sorry for that young mum in Merthyr, who's child needs new shoes but she's had to wait until her wages go into her bank account to be able to buy them. Now that she's been paid, she's not allowed to buy them.
I agree with others who question why crisps, coca cola, cigarettes and alcohol is considered a necessity, but children's clothing is not.

I agree. Children's shoes are not something you can just order online

It might only be two weeks, grannyrebel but that doesn't mean that those of us who are living in low risk areas (at the moment) shouldn't show a little empathy.

Lovely to see such empathy and understanding grannyrebel; I'm sure the young mum in Merthyr appreciates it.

Am I the only one that doesn't understand the problem? We're only in lockdown for 2 weeks and for the last 3 we've seen this coming, so if you needed a birthday card, you've had plenty of time to buy one. All that's happening is that the playing field is being evened out. Small shops that store non essentials are closed, so for fairness large supermarkets that make millions are not allowed to sell non essentials for 2 weeks only!!

I agree with showing empathy but we also have to be prepared to make some sacrifices. The child who needs shoes is not going out for the house for at least another week and after that I'm sure school will understand if she wears trainers or some other shoe for the first few days.