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My husband refuses to believe in coronavirus

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nightwriter Tue 10-Nov-20 14:00:56

I am finding it difficult to tolerate my husband's continual assertion that coronavirus is not real and is, in fact, a tool used by governments and big pharma companies to control us. He believes that Bill Gates is behind it all. Any reasonable discussion is off limits and he is now trying to convince me that I shouldn't have the vaccine when it arrives. Not sure how to deal with this.

varian Wed 11-Nov-20 17:21:21

There are certain key words which indicate that someone has "gone down the rabbit-hole"

"Do your own research" is one.

It shows that the poster has absolutely no idea of the meaning of research

Grannee Wed 11-Nov-20 17:19:20

Tillybelle excellent advice, based on sound principles. OP
asked for help dealing with living with someones's views, and that's what you gave.

BeeGranBee Wed 11-Nov-20 17:03:23

I have a friend who tried to talk about conspiracy theory now and again even though both my husband and I tested positive 3 weeks ago... we self isolated immediately as did all our family and our symptoms were manageable although not pleasant. It makes my blood boil that people still think it doesn’t exist !!!!

glammagran Wed 11-Nov-20 17:00:41

Think you might mean North Korea Cossy

Cossy Wed 11-Nov-20 16:16:54

Athenia It’s not rocket science, gatherings, not just protests, of more than 6 were put into place across the UK, for COVID purposes only ! Believe whatever you and your highly intelligent friend wish to, we live in a Capitalist society so yes those with the money do rule things, but we also live in a Democracy. Pop yourself off to China or South Korea you wish to see a real dictatorship !

Nanananana1 Wed 11-Nov-20 16:15:23

I wonder (therapists and mental health experts please help here) if this is some sort of anxiety disorder? I have noticed that when things aren't going well for my son (emotionally with girlfriends, work etc.) he latches onto all sorts of things he's 'been researching' on the Internet. Is it a feeling of a lack of control, is he panicky and all at sea because life is so unpredictable and disordered? Does he need to know that everything is 'under control' and his life is 'sorted' before he can feel at ease. The feelings of discomfort can make people with anxiety feel very wobbly and he might be trying to hang onto an emotional life-raft by rejecting all the uncertainty in his life. All you can do is stay calm, go your own way and let him find a way of dealing with his anxiety or get him onto some counselling or therapy to help him to deal with his uncomfortable feelings. Just a thought

Cossy Wed 11-Nov-20 16:11:25

I’m not sure using the term “sheeple” is going to endear you to many people on here !! Believe what you will, but for pity’s sake keep it to yourself !!!

biba70 Wed 11-Nov-20 15:41:50

I will not beat about the bush here- but I would find it very difficult, and perhaps impossible, to live with someone who thinks that way. Sorry to say.

Tillybelle Wed 11-Nov-20 15:38:19

quizqueen
You give us lots of data and say

"Something for you to discuss sensibly"

I love you!!

Cossy Wed 11-Nov-20 15:33:28

Sorry to disagree but COVID isn’t just another strain of the flu is it, it’s more related to MERS and SARS. The entire political leaders of the world would have to be United in one big conspiracy for the beliefs of extreme theorists to be true

Tillybelle Wed 11-Nov-20 15:31:22

nightwriter
You may not like what I shall say but please remember I do sympathise! I have had a lot of people ask me how to cope with a loved member of the family who is like your husband. As a result I have had to look at quite a lot of the evidence they produce.
As with certain other big differences of opinion, I think this one can only be met by an "agree to differ" and "respect each others' opinions" settlement. This is because I have found that feelings and beliefs run very high on both sides. I know it is unsatisfactory on both sides in that each feels the other is not protecting themselves as they need to. But the intensity of the feelings if one tries to change the other's opinions and beliefs, no matter which side one is on, is so great that it is more likely to lead to a row, distress, tears and worse feelings.
I would do all you can to keep the peace without loosing your integrity. As to the current dreadful situation the country, nay the world, is in, time will have to sort it out. We must try to keep peace in our own homes and try not to let it spoil the love we have for each other.
This is why I appeal to the people who are going along with the government and trying to keep things safe. I am asking you to try not to get angry with those who see holes in the government's approach or in any other of the things happening. If you were able to look into some of these things, as I had to, you may be amazed to see that the dissenters actually do have the facts right on many things. We cannot deny that the government has aid and done things that have been proved wrong, including how they announced the numbers of deaths and called positive test results on an unreliable test "cases" when a "case" should be a person with symptoms who has been diagnosed by a Doctor. It doesn't mean the Dissenter's approach is the way forward but in the main, the people I have had questions about have been highly intelligent and often scientifically minded or very good at figures. So please respect them. Do not ridicule them. Just try to remain calm and even let them talk about their views, asking them please not to get angry because you don't need to be upset. Show your respect and love by letting them explain. They should do the same for you of course, but I have to say, do not expect them to be as reasonable as you. I have found that they are so intensely worried about all the anomalies they have found in the things that are happening it has made them very tense and wound up.
So may I beg you to try and pour oil on troubled water and aim for peace in your home? Accept that he may never agree with you, but time will sort it out. Try and be calm and keep off these subjects especially the vaccine. I think there is a bit of time before it is here for us who are ordinary members of the public. When it is due, I'd simply try not to talk about it too much and if necessary say you will decide near the time as it's your body after all.

I know it would have been easier if I said how unreasonable he is and you must fight him but I have seen this approach make people's lives so terribly unhappy.
Do not let this wretched virus make your marriage its victim. It has caused too much havoc already.

Good luck. I shall be thinking of you.

Cossy Wed 11-Nov-20 15:30:56

Sounds like he needs help? Totally bizarre theories are not helpful, does he spend a lot of time on social media ?
COVID certainly exists ! I feel for you x

growstuff Wed 11-Nov-20 15:01:09

In some groups the mortality rate is much higher than 1%.

There is growing evidence that a percentage of those who survive, suffer life-changing after effects.

If the virus were to be allowed to run its course and there were no mitigation, it would inevitably be passed on to vulnerable people.

1% of the UK's population is 680,056.

quizqueen Wed 11-Nov-20 14:47:37

The new 'miracle' vaccine has taken just a few months to develop and claims to be 90% effective against covid. Even the seasonal flu vaccine, which has been ongoing and tested for several years, doesn't claim that high a preventative rate.

As only about 1%, who catch covid, die that means your natural bodily resistant rate is 99% effective.
Something for you to discuss sensibly.

GillT57 Wed 11-Nov-20 14:43:03

Athenia you said His research always leads him to those who control banking and the money supply. This is the classic Jewish conspiracy theory which has been around for a very long time. If you look at all the world dominance candidates, they are all Jewish. This is straight out of The Elders of Zion conspiracy, which was used to justify the Third Reich.

Joesoap Wed 11-Nov-20 14:39:58

Take no notice of his freak ideas he is worse than Trump,I feel sorry for you at least we are getting rid of Trump!!

GillT57 Wed 11-Nov-20 14:39:13

Oh thank heavens I am not alone! I have a very good friend, and a darling god daughter who have fallen down the rabbit hole of covid19 conspiracy theories and keep posting clips of people spouting forth to back up their theories. I just ignore the FB posts; we can all back up anything that suits our beliefs. Initially it was 5G theories, now we have moved on to covid19 figures being over exaggerated, Bill Gates wishing to implant something in our arms and as for the possibility of a vaccine!! It is really difficult and weirdly, I am glad of lockdown as we are unable to meet up, I do not want to lose a good friendship or a great relationship with my goddaughter over this. It is was to ignore online posts, but far more difficult to ignore someone trying to tell you that they are right and you are wrong. For me. the obvious question is why on earth would people as diverse as Macron, Putin, Xu, Bolsanaro, Merkel et al, put their extensive political differences aside and crash their economies? Why? Mind you, my friend has started posting theories about 'restarts' where the existing world order is overthrown.....

Supergran1946 Wed 11-Nov-20 14:38:14

I am recovering from Covid. I am a fit 74 year old who only 4 weeks ago managed an 11 mile walk in the Lake District, then I tested positive for Covid and could barely walk the six steps from my bedroom to the bathroom. I am lucky that I did not require hospitalisation, but I felt SO ill it makes me angry to hear of your husbands stupid, irresponsible views. I dont wish this awful virus on anyone, but if he had a mild dose of it he would soon change his tune

sodapop Wed 11-Nov-20 14:36:04

I agree quizqueen whether or not we agree we should not assume that someone who holds these beliefs is mentally ill.
The OP's husband may have other issues which lead her to believe he is ill.

narrowboatnan Wed 11-Nov-20 14:31:43

I have two friends who are like your DH. They both believe that we are all being duped, that there is no pandemic and that the government is trying to control us. I just tell them firmly that “I don’t believe what you believe and ask you to respect that”.

Seems to work so far.

grumppa Wed 11-Nov-20 14:25:32

Do tell us what the ulterior purposes are that your friend has discovered, Athenia. We lesser mortals will never be able to find it out for ourselves.

Bald1 Wed 11-Nov-20 14:22:24

Some people think they are an island, so strong they can withstand anything thrown at them.
Just tell him he's entitled to his opinion but you'll be first in the queue for a jab.
Remind him you should both keep you will up to date, or write one urgently.
That might do it.

Athenia Wed 11-Nov-20 14:09:26

I have a highly intelligent friend who has been researching for the last thirty years to discover who actually has power in the world. His research always leads him to those who control banking and the money supply. To his great dismay, he has concluded that this pandemic is being used for ulterior purposes. Ask yourself why, on 5th November, it was made illegal in London for more than six people to take part in a demonstration.
What has that to do with a pandemic?
Do your own research, read as much as possible about what is really happening.
Bear in mind that the press and media are controlled and that the news is being manipulated to make the situation look much worse than it really is.
I anticipate that this is not what anyone on Gransnet wanted to hear. But please pay attention to anything that strikes you as being a disconnect, and do your own research.

Atqui Wed 11-Nov-20 14:04:53

I know a couple of people who have similar views. I just ask them why they think the government would want to totally wreck the economy. As to these theories about Bill Gates - where did they originate?

Beanie654321 Wed 11-Nov-20 14:04:20

Bootymum67 is right or take him to the mortuary to see all those that have died because of the virus, I have lost friends due to covid and have friends with Longcovid. He needs to realise the only one spreading idiotic rumours is himself.