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My husband refuses to believe in coronavirus

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nightwriter Tue 10-Nov-20 14:00:56

I am finding it difficult to tolerate my husband's continual assertion that coronavirus is not real and is, in fact, a tool used by governments and big pharma companies to control us. He believes that Bill Gates is behind it all. Any reasonable discussion is off limits and he is now trying to convince me that I shouldn't have the vaccine when it arrives. Not sure how to deal with this.

Cossy Wed 11-Nov-20 15:33:28

Sorry to disagree but COVID isn’t just another strain of the flu is it, it’s more related to MERS and SARS. The entire political leaders of the world would have to be United in one big conspiracy for the beliefs of extreme theorists to be true

Tillybelle Wed 11-Nov-20 15:38:19

quizqueen
You give us lots of data and say

"Something for you to discuss sensibly"

I love you!!

biba70 Wed 11-Nov-20 15:41:50

I will not beat about the bush here- but I would find it very difficult, and perhaps impossible, to live with someone who thinks that way. Sorry to say.

Cossy Wed 11-Nov-20 16:11:25

I’m not sure using the term “sheeple” is going to endear you to many people on here !! Believe what you will, but for pity’s sake keep it to yourself !!!

Nanananana1 Wed 11-Nov-20 16:15:23

I wonder (therapists and mental health experts please help here) if this is some sort of anxiety disorder? I have noticed that when things aren't going well for my son (emotionally with girlfriends, work etc.) he latches onto all sorts of things he's 'been researching' on the Internet. Is it a feeling of a lack of control, is he panicky and all at sea because life is so unpredictable and disordered? Does he need to know that everything is 'under control' and his life is 'sorted' before he can feel at ease. The feelings of discomfort can make people with anxiety feel very wobbly and he might be trying to hang onto an emotional life-raft by rejecting all the uncertainty in his life. All you can do is stay calm, go your own way and let him find a way of dealing with his anxiety or get him onto some counselling or therapy to help him to deal with his uncomfortable feelings. Just a thought

Cossy Wed 11-Nov-20 16:16:54

Athenia It’s not rocket science, gatherings, not just protests, of more than 6 were put into place across the UK, for COVID purposes only ! Believe whatever you and your highly intelligent friend wish to, we live in a Capitalist society so yes those with the money do rule things, but we also live in a Democracy. Pop yourself off to China or South Korea you wish to see a real dictatorship !

glammagran Wed 11-Nov-20 17:00:41

Think you might mean North Korea Cossy

BeeGranBee Wed 11-Nov-20 17:03:23

I have a friend who tried to talk about conspiracy theory now and again even though both my husband and I tested positive 3 weeks ago... we self isolated immediately as did all our family and our symptoms were manageable although not pleasant. It makes my blood boil that people still think it doesn’t exist !!!!

Grannee Wed 11-Nov-20 17:19:20

Tillybelle excellent advice, based on sound principles. OP
asked for help dealing with living with someones's views, and that's what you gave.

varian Wed 11-Nov-20 17:21:21

There are certain key words which indicate that someone has "gone down the rabbit-hole"

"Do your own research" is one.

It shows that the poster has absolutely no idea of the meaning of research

focused1 Wed 11-Nov-20 17:30:58

Has he got friends or other family members he could try and off load this onto ? Instead of taking this on board yourself maybe get support of those he may listen to.

MissAdventure Wed 11-Nov-20 17:39:48

I agree absolutely with TillyBelle.

Kryptonite Wed 11-Nov-20 17:45:57

That must be so hard to live with. According to my brother, Biden will be dead in a month (or a month into his presidency) to be replaced by Karmela - all in some plan to have the first female and black president. He and my other brother have plenty of time to trawl the internet. However, no one has to trust our governments if they don't want to and are free (certainly in this country) to have and voice their suspicions. Thanks to the www, they lap up all sorts of theories about the Clintons, the Obamas, the Blairs, etc. Seemingly the master plan is to have only 'elite' people in the world ultimately and get rid of nearly everyone else through various means and/or ensure that the masses live in ignorance. And many more theories I could mention. It is distressing for the listener, while the spouter seems to revel in it. How does the possible 'grain of truth' turn into a mountain of madness? No, I don't think it's a mental illness at all, but as others have said, a reaction to extraordinary events and changes, a baulking against people in power and their motives (don't we all do that at times?) and possibly also a reaction to difficult events in their own lives. When my f-i-l developed dementia, he thought the government was responsible for his topsy turvy days and nights. We agreed with him, but that's quite different. Perhaps your husband needs a hobby or something to take his mind off things. A good laugh might help if you can find one. Or you could put a time limit on his rantings, and agree on just 10 or 15 minutes per day and no more. You have my sympathy.

Hamish11 Wed 11-Nov-20 18:19:29

I no exactly how u feel and feel for u , my daughter and her husband are the same wev had lots of arguments about this very heated all I can do now is tell her we agree to disagree but it still comes up every time I see her and it seems to me people she knows think the same way and like u said about ur husband always on the internet looking at videos about there being no covid ?☹️

Witzend Wed 11-Nov-20 19:01:11

An ex colleague of mine is much the same. He’s a lovely bloke and absolutely not daft, but he lives alone, no family to speak of, and was deprived of his usual social life (largely his local pub) during the first lockdown.

I’m sure it was social isolation, and probably boredom on top, that drove him to conspiracy websites.

marieingham Wed 11-Nov-20 19:16:12

Two of my work colleagues also believe it’s a Government conspiracy to try and control us and that this virus doesn’t exist. Yet they can’t come up with a reason why, for what purpose. I’ve had heated arguments with them and told them to tell their theories to the over 49,000 people’s relatives that have died of it. They also believe the earth is flat - enough said!

Tempest Wed 11-Nov-20 19:17:00

Tillybelle I agree with everything you say and would suggest this is a way for harmony within families when dealing with countless other subjects. I have tried to use this approach when dealing with my extended family. We seem to disagree on most things, from religion, politics, education, marriage, money. It is too exhausting arguing or discussing every point. When I spend time with friends I choose to spend my time with people who make me happy and have views and ideas that make some sense to me. Life partners should be there to respect, support and love you and together make choices that are acceptable to both of you.

Kamiso Wed 11-Nov-20 19:34:25

There is going to be a march by anti vaxers in Wolverhampton on Saturday. I suggested they should sign a waiver to say that they won’t seek treatment if they catch or spread the disease as they are wilfully endangering others including NHS staff.

earnshaw Wed 11-Nov-20 20:20:56

i just cant get my head round people who feel this way, the evidence is there, please god he doesnt catch it

crazygranny Wed 11-Nov-20 20:56:46

Really sorry for your trouble. There's nothing you can do to help him to realise that the internet may be a wonderfully useful tool, but it isn't a substitute for real life. Stay as strong and grounded as you are now and don't follow him down the rabbit hole.

SueEH Wed 11-Nov-20 22:08:02

A very intelligent acquaintance of mine who runs her own business has started posting long anti vaxing rants about big pharma working with governments to use the vaccine to control populations. I’m finding it really hard to understand how she can hold these views, and even more difficult to know what to say to her without being plain rude!

Lucca Wed 11-Nov-20 22:28:06

Be rude!

debsf1 Wed 11-Nov-20 22:30:57

I work in a crematorium and your husband is crazy if he doesn’t believe that the virus is real. In the first wave of deaths earlier this year we went from a regular amount of approx 40 cremations and 3 maybe 4 burials a week to 125 cremations a week and an average of 4 burials a day! This went on for about 6 weeks and our 2 cremators were working 24 hours a day at one point just trying to keep up with the amount of bodies arriving..

MissAdventure Wed 11-Nov-20 22:36:40

Oh, that's a sobering thing to reflect on.

Ridds66 Wed 11-Nov-20 22:39:40

I agree with him , do some research , agenda 21/30 he’s right