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New colleague won’t adhere to workplace policies

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Mamma66 Mon 30-Nov-20 13:09:56

I work for a charity which has worked all the way through both Lockdowns. The precautions in place are well thought through and I feel fairly confident about the measures in place. We have had two new starters; one fitted in straight away, the other not so much. It has become increasingly apparent that the second new starter is ignoring the Covid precautions relating to using the WC at work.

We have a staff toilet and the protocol is that after you have used the bathroom you wipe down all the surfaces you have touched with antibacterial wipes and wash your hands. I don’t think she washes her hands, but I know for certain that she doesn’t wipe down the surfaces. I am not the only person to notice this and a colleague put up a sign in the loo just in case the information hadn’t filtered through. She is a nice enough person, but I really don’t appreciate the fact that she is putting us all at risk. What do I do? Raise it with our CEO?

Missfoodlove Mon 30-Nov-20 13:42:35

No don’t raise it with the CEO, it’s a bit petty.
Send a reminder to every member of staff.
Or just ask her if she is remembering to do it.

toscalily Mon 30-Nov-20 14:08:50

You say it appears everyone else is adhering to the code of practice therefore I do not think it is unreasonable for you to expect her to do so. It would make me wonder how much she conforms to the other practices that are expected of us outside of the workplace regarding social distancing, mask wearing and hand washing if she is like this at work. If she is careless it may make her more of a health risk to you all. Is there a superior that could speak to her rather than going directly to the CEO? If not you may have no choice as her lack of conformity may breed discontent & unease within the workplace.

Grandmabatty Mon 30-Nov-20 14:10:04

Just wipe down all the surfaces when you go in. You don't know for a fact unless you're monitoring the bins for used wipes after she's been to the loo which is both petty and stalkery! I get the feeling you don't like her much anyway so you might be looking for ways that she offends.

cathymum Mon 30-Nov-20 14:10:24

Maybe they didn't take in the information when they started, did they have any induction training? If they have both recently started there could be some sort of review to check their understanding of procedures in general. Might just need pointing out, once that's been done they have no excuse not to follow procedures and CEO might need to be involved.

Daisymae Mon 30-Nov-20 14:14:28

I would speak to her line manager and ask that a note be sent to everyone reminding of the protocol. However if you are wiping as you go in that should be OK as far as it goes. The virus is most likely spread person to person via droplets.

wildswan16 Mon 30-Nov-20 15:15:48

I would ask for a general reminder to be sent out to everybody.

However, I never rely on somebody else doing what they should be doing. I would be wiping anything I needed to touch in a communal loo before I touched it anyway.

It might be helpful to have a sanitiser bottle in full view of the general area where you are all based - then whoever comes out of the loo can get reminded in a friendly kind of way if they walk past without using it.

sodapop Mon 30-Nov-20 16:20:59

I agree with Grandmabatty how do you know if your colleague wipes down or not ? I would be taking my own precautions and not fretting about what others do or don't do.

Franbern Mon 30-Nov-20 18:41:24 wipes?????

welbeck Mon 30-Nov-20 18:51:38

antibac wipes are fine, as is diluted washing-up liquid.
we've been through all this.
but if she is not washing hands after using loo, that suggests very lax/non-existent normal hygiene practices. that is not acceptable, esp in these times.
is there no one between you and the CEO. who is her line manager. is the wash-hand basin outside the WC closet, so that you can be sure she is not washing hands. it needs to be addressed. organisation has a duty of care to other employees/ users of space.

JenniferEccles Mon 30-Nov-20 22:33:55

I wonder what makes you think the woman doesn’t wash her hands?

MaggieTulliver Mon 30-Nov-20 22:54:47

Beyond petty OP. I work in a GP practice and there is no wiping down of surfaces nor has it ever been mentioned. I despair at what Covid is doing to people....

MaggieTulliver Mon 30-Nov-20 22:55:33

Perhaps you should report her to the police

Chewbacca Mon 30-Nov-20 23:00:51

Unless you're following her into the toilet and watching what she does, how can you possibly know what she does? Unless, as a previous poster suggested, you're raking through the bins to count the discarded anti bacterial wipes? If I was in your position, I'd just make doubly sure that I was wiping down surfaces, washing my hands thoroughly and following all reasonable precautions. As for reporting her to the CEO..... don't.

Doodledog Tue 01-Dec-20 00:12:33


Beyond petty OP. I work in a GP practice and there is no wiping down of surfaces nor has it ever been mentioned. I despair at what Covid is doing to people....

This. 100%.

From the sniping about whether other people’s purchases were ‘essential’ and who should be in the park, through to reporting neighbours for apparent guidance violations, Covid has altered my opinion of the British public, and not for the better.

JenniferEccles Tue 01-Dec-20 08:51:07

I agree with the last few comments.
Is this one of ‘those’ threads though I wonder?

petra Tue 01-Dec-20 09:16:42

The OP has posted before on GN so I'm assuming it's genuine, sad to say.
It's a pity it's against the law to have a camera in the toilets ( insert sarcastic emoji)

Oldtimer60 Tue 01-Dec-20 09:25:54

If these suspected transgressions are referred to contradicts the companies additional Covid-19 H&S instructions then the OP need only report the matter to whoever is responsible for safety in the department/office/company.

The company then has a legal obligation to investigate the issue and also keep the name of the whistleblower anonymous. No other action need be taken by the OP.

Grannybags Tue 01-Dec-20 09:41:27


Perhaps you should report her to the police


Frankie51 Tue 01-Dec-20 09:55:26

She's acting in a risky way, careless with regards to her colleagues safety.
She's dangerous. Just as dangerous as a health and safety breach in normal times. She's undermining the Covid safe requirements of the workplace. Has her immediate manager/supervisor spoken to her about it.? Is she aware? There must be a disciplinary procedure in place if she continues to ignore health and safety like this.

granjan Tue 01-Dec-20 09:56:12

Even on a hospital visit last week. I used the toilet and was able to wash my hands, but nothing there to wipe down surfaces. No idea how often someone goes in to clean it, I was just very careful!

Tanjamaltija Tue 01-Dec-20 09:57:03

The simplest solution will work - have you asked her, directly, rather than sniping with the rest of you, behind her back? Do you go to the loo immediately after she does, and smell the sing, to see if the scent of antiseptic is still lingering, before it has the time to dissipate, and that the soap is still 'wettish'? Or, must she come out with wet hands, which she then wipes on the seat of her jeans, to show that she has washed her hands? If she has Covid-19, you will not not get it because she does not wipe down the loo seat and the sink, believe me.

fordk4 Tue 01-Dec-20 09:58:02

this is why the country is in such a mess with all these lockdowns as a small minority could not care less about other people its time these people get a grip of the situation once and for all for the safety of all wake-up and do the right thing

CleoPanda Tue 01-Dec-20 09:59:37

So the message is that being ultra careful and hygienic during a pandemic is not necessary?
It’s clear which posters haven’t had Covid, or lost someone dear through it.
Believe me, if you had experienced this dreadful virus, you would not be mocking the OP for being concerned.
As for not bothering about wiping down surfaces or washing hands , I despair.
I’m sitting here crying now as i’’m overwhelmed by the complacency and derision from people who don’t care.

Awesomegranny Tue 01-Dec-20 10:05:05

Unless you are her line manager, I would pass on your concerns for the line manager to deal with. Being new you need to give your colleague the benefit of doubt but equally I do get your worries.