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mokryna Sun 20-Dec-20 21:44:15

Things are getting serious as France is because of covid is blocking lorry movements.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:48:00

I don’t think stranded hauliers can be blamed for a no deal Brexit - they’re not just from France anyway. In the event of a no deal I don’t think we’ll need hauliers to cause chaos. That will be entirely of our govts own making. Kerching (for Rees Mogg).

Greeneyedgirl Tue 22-Dec-20 18:47:27

Well with the sort of chaotic messages UK Govt has been sending out about this new variant virus to it’s own citizens, out of control by Hancock, for one, it’s no wonder the French and other countries hastily closed their borders until things are clarified.

Any responsible government would do the same surely?

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 18:38:48

Terrible, all those countries using their sovereignty and controlling their own borders.

Summerlove Tue 22-Dec-20 18:34:15

Your faith in this chaotic government is touching.

It can’t even feed its hungry children.

The word you are looking for is won’t

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:31:52

I do hope that these stranded hauliers are the benefit of your good will when they are blockading EU ports in the event of a no deal Brexit.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:29:30

LauraNorder

Had we felt the need to close our borders at such short notice we would be working to repatriate our nationals and to feed them in the meantime, it’s what we do.

Your faith in this chaotic government is touching.

It can’t even feed its hungry children.

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:27:48

Had we felt the need to close our borders at such short notice we would be working to repatriate our nationals and to feed them in the meantime, it’s what we do.

Summerlove Tue 22-Dec-20 18:27:29

trisher

Isn't Macron doing what all the Brexiteers wanted us to do (and said we couldn't while we were in the EU) exercising control over his country's borders?

Apparently only the UK should have control?

I don’t get it

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:26:15

I had already answered Growstuff when I said that the chaos in Harwich and Holyhead was caused by other EU countries and not the UK. Ie Holland and the Republic of Ireland. I thought you’d be able to work that out.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:21:35

gg13 what a brilliant idea.

I think our borders should be closed forthwith????

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:19:57

I think over 40 countries have closed their borders to us haven’t they?

Casdon Tue 22-Dec-20 18:19:52

It wouldn’t have made much difference to the European drivers if 24 or even 48 hours notice had been given though, because they would have needed to deliver their goods In the UK, that’s why the number of trucks waiting has increased. It’s ingenuous to blame Macron, as it’s highly likely we would have done exactly the same if the situation was reversed.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:18:03

Those administrations that closed the borders whoever they are, are responsible for the chaos, the UK has not closed its borders maybe we should.

Just wait for the demands for them to be reopened from posters here and member States of the EU.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:17:07

LauraNorder

I was answering WW 18.06

Please read growstuffs post 18.13

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:16:25

The Sikh community has clubbed together to provide hot food to the lorry drivers.

Well done!

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:16:25

I was answering WW 18.06

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 18:13:36

LauraNorder

We accuse France of causing chaos because they closed the borders with no notice. Causing chaos

What about Eire and Holland?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:13:16

Whitewavemark2

Astoundingly the brexiters continue to blame everyone except the government’s severe shortcomings

So how are the UK Government responsible for the French Border Closures, please enlighten us?

Pleased that France is allowing its citizens to return.

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 18:13:07

rosie1959

Macrons an idiot why leave EU drivers stranded here Just get them tested when they return to their depots

What about Irish and Dutch leaders? Are they idiots too?

Who would have thought protecting your own borders was idiotic?

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 18:11:55

LauraNorder

Macron has not caused the chaos at Harwich or Holyhead but the other European Union countries have refused entry to their own nationals. The UK are not holding them hostage. The countries causing this chaos must take responsibility. This chaos is EU made. They could allow their own nationals to come home and self isolate as we have done with our own.

This chaos is "Made in the UK".

rosie1959 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:10:12

Macrons an idiot why leave EU drivers stranded here Just get them tested when they return to their depots

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:08:45

Astoundingly the brexiters continue to blame everyone except the government’s severe shortcomings

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:08:42

We accuse France of causing chaos because they closed the borders with no notice. Causing chaos

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:07:17

Freight now moving from Holyhead to the Republic of Ireland but not cars.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:06:43

The chap in charge of Calais port was interviewed this morning. He advised the interviewer that Calais staff had been training for 2 years and all the necessary infrastructure was in place together with the software etc.

We have yet to recruit and train all the staff, complete the infrastructure and obtain software fit for purpose.

We have yet to complete any of it.

And we accuse France of causing chaos!!