Oxford Vaccine approved

It is all getting very muddled isn’t it?

MayBee The FDA have been saying for weeks that the Oxford vaccine isn't ready for authorisation. They're not concerned about safety, but the original presentation of the data wasn't very clear with regards to efficacy of the various doses in different ages.

I don't think the new variant is the reason behind the change in dosing plans. It's because the government said it would vaccinate a million a week. It doesn't have enough doses to keep enough in reserve for second doses, so it wanted to be able to say it kept its promise. I would feel much happier if I didn't think this is a political decision not backed up by medical evidence.

Greeneyedgirl

Fit and finish - glass vials and bungs.

I picked that up somewhere too.

I don’t know growstuff, but as the information about the second Pfizer delivery has come from the government website news page we have to assume it’s correct? I know Wales has also got 22,000 doses of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine for next week, that was on the Welsh BBC news yesterday. However much we receive is unlikely to be enough in the short term given the upsurge in cases though I guess.

It is indeed a shambles. The problem throughout this pandemic has been lack of transparency, and this only increases the public distrust. It seems our PM is only capable of feeding us good news, often lacking coherent detail.

Clearly it is great that we have manufactured a vaccine in U.K. so quickly, but we do need to kept aware of the whole picture, and not be treated like children.

Greeneyedgirl

It is indeed a shambles. The problem throughout this pandemic has been lack of transparency, and this only increases the public distrust. It seems our PM is only capable of feeding us good news, often lacking coherent detail.

Clearly it is great that we have manufactured a vaccine in U.K. so quickly, but we do need to kept aware of the whole picture, and not be treated like children.

Although the Oxford vaccine was developed in the UK, initial doses are being manufactured further afield. Ian McCubbin, manufacturing lead for the UK’s Vaccine Taskforce said that while the ‘vast majority’ of the UK’s 100 million doses will come from inside the UK, the first batches will not. ‘The initial supply – and it’s a little bit of a quirk of the programme – actually comes from the Netherlands and Germany,’ he said. ‘But once that’s supplied, which we expect will be all by the end of this year, then the remainder of the supply will be a UK supply chain.
(from todays Metro newspaper)

Thanks Genty. I didn’t realise that the first batch was coming from Netherlands and Germany, and that UK manufactured apparently not ready yet?

It's not surprising. AstraZeneca, which is an British/Swedish company and has factories in other countries, is responsible for production.

One of the best things about the Oxford vaccine up is that many countries are manufacturing their own eg India.

Hi Genty, have you read The Invisible Rainbow - A History of Electricity and Life by Arthur Firstenberg? It's a fascinating read.

MayBee70

One of the best things about the Oxford vaccine up is that many countries are manufacturing their own eg India.

That is because it is based on a traditional form of technology.

So yes, great news. First complete the Astra Zeneca vaccination with two doses as per scientific instructions- then go on at speed with Oxford vaccine. Don't mess around.

But Johnson said months ago that we’d have massive amounts of the Oxford vaccine ready to roll by the end of the year didn’t he?

MayBee70

But Johnson said months ago that we’d have massive amounts of the Oxford vaccine ready to roll by the end of the year didn’t he?

Boris schpeels a lot of rubbish, he tells us what he thinks we want to hear just to appease us like the rest of the politicians! Weve all been lied to re Covid by the lot of them!

True, the facts have been shown to be far worse than politicians have represented them.

Why is it slow for the Oxford vaccine to be distributed, we are told because each batch has to be tested, isn’t this being done with the other one?

Not so many batches to test in the Pfizer one?

Tens of millions will be vaccinated by April.

Really? I looked on that site which estimates when you'll be vaccinated. Originally, I was March/April. Now I'm May/June.

growstuff

Really? I looked on that site which estimates when you'll be vaccinated. Originally, I was March/April. Now I'm May/June.

Would that be the first dose, or the complete two dose package, I wonder?

Which site please growstuff?

MissA are you really BJ? Your cover is blown

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Anyone see Betty Boothroyd on Sky News just now. Absolutely furious that she won’t be getting her second vaccine.

CNN interviewing a scientist over the suggestion in USA that the vaccine be spread over as many people as possible just as it is being done here (although the U.K. was not mentioned)

He like Fauci is absolutely against it, saying that immunity cannot be guaranteed after say 3 weeks and the subsequent booster won’t be able to do its job.

I’m not at all happy about the U.K. policy.