Is the new corvid variant actually American?

None whatsoever.
Questioning statements is not bullying.

Bullying?! Where

I agree Ailidh. For once, we were ahead of the game and have unfortunately been tarred by the association.

I don't have a view about where the mutation originated but have long felt that we merely identified it sooner than other countries.

Apportioning blame helps no-one

It's nothing to do with British exceptionalism or, conversely, something being wrong with the UK.

Yes, scientists in the UK did discover the mutation first.

Viruses mutate.
That is why scientists are constantly developing/tweaking vaccines.

www.breakthroughs.com/advancing-medical-research/how-do-viruses-mutate-and-what-it-means-vaccine

Ok Callistemon, I'll ignore your comments in future, given that this was a direct response to your off topic comment.

As the thread changed direction it wasn't clear exactly what the topic was.

I have never met anyone from Ecuador.
Colombia, yes.

It's not bullying in the slightest.
(I have a feeling of déjà vu)

It's just bemusement that the thread has changed from being about Covid to Brexit and an assumption that anyone who is not working/living overseas is insular, inward-looking and nuts.

Yes, I suppose non Brits (I work with French, Spanish, Mexican, Serbian, Hungarian, Albanian, Equadorian, Chinese, Canadian and yes, Swiss) can assume that Brits working overseas were pro EU

Talking of the EU and/or Brexit, which we weren’t .........

Careful you don't move into bullying 'ladies'. GNHQ won't approve and I am not intimidated.

Ok Callistemon, I'll ignore your comments in future, given that this was a direct response to your off topic comment.

Moving along...

Yes, I suppose non Brits (I work with French, Spanish, Mexican, Serbian, Hungarian, Albanian, Equadorian, Chinese, Canadian and yes, Swiss) can assume that Brits working overseas were pro EU.

I'm now - is this thread about the new-variant COVID or the EU?

Goodness, there's little old me, so insular, never met anyone who isn't Welsh.

It is important not to confuse the two.

I wonder if it might have something to do with altitude and “moral high ground” ? ? ?

Callistemon

We were accused of being xenophobic if we criticised Switzerland or the Swiss at all, so I presume that the obverse must apply.

Boom, Callistemon!

You're spot on there

GagaJo

*'it is a particularly noxious form of stirring to tell anybody that a third party is badmouthing them.'* There is no third party. I am responding to your question (direct address, two participants only), 'But you brought it to our attention - why?'

Don't ask a question if you don't want an answer.

You (first party); tell me (second party); that Jemima over there (aka Switzerland or from what you say everybody) (third party) doesn’t like me/thinks I am nuts.
Simple arithmetic.
Stirring up animosity between two parties.
And I didn’t get an answer, just told that if I didn’t like it I should go elsewhere .

I really wish there was an eye roll emoji.
???

Witzend

I imagine that if it’s mutated naturally here, it will have done the same elsewhere.
Though I dare say there will always be those who find it convenient to blame another country.

Very true!

I really wish there was an eye roll emoji.

Yes, I suppose non Brits (I work with French, Spanish, Mexican, Serbian, Hungarian, Albanian, Equadorian, Chinese, Canadian and yes, Swiss) can assume that Brits working overseas were pro EU. But I think it is a fair statement that anyone other than maybe Americans think we were wrong. And don't mind expressing that opinion. One which I am NOT offended by. Because, yes, I share it.

We were accused of being xenophobic if we criticised Switzerland or the Swiss at all, so I presume that the obverse must apply.

they think the U.K. is nuts
How often do people tell us what they suspect we want to hear?
I’m not thrilled with Brexit, or our government. It doesn’t leave me dismissing my country as nuts

Really? We thought the US was nuts for electing Trump.

They think the UK is nuts.

I would say that is xenophobic.

Esspee

I am not particularly concerned about where it came from. I just want it to go away.
Apportioning “blame” is pointless.

Completely agree

Ah, sorry Petra. I thought you were referring to the article.

Yes, where I live new people that I meet DO ask me. Frequently. They think the UK is nuts. I usually just agree with them but I think they all think all Brits WANTED to leave the EU.