Exercising once a day?

No, it's not "in the air". The elderly neighbour must have touched something contaminated by virus or been a little too close to somebody and forgotten about it. I assume she's had deliveries of some sort, even if shielding.

All viruses are quite fragile. They're not like bacteria, which can reproduce on their own, but will disappear quite quickly without a host. They have to hook up to a receptor to cause damage. They will circulate in an enclosed space for some hours, but then they disperse and become ineffective.

I doubt, too, that the 85 year old neighbour caught the virus from thin air - it is not possible.
Even catching a cold is not possible without encountering a virus somehow.

If she had not been to a test centre and had a positive Covid test it may well not be the virus so she would be at more risk going in an ambulance to a hospital where there is Covid than staying at home in the warm.

She may be getting muddled - I dud wonder if she has a UTI which could make her feel very unwell and can cause confusion in which case she needs antibiotics.
I hope someone is looking out for her.

The ambulance people will not make the decision about possible survival chances and refuse to take a patient to hospital.
There must be another reason.

I think common sense is key , if you walk your dog away from the masses I feel personally that twice a day would be fine.
It’s not the same as the some of the things I’ve seen 25 deep in the park with all the kids mingling, then they go back home , then the parents go to the super market , mix mix mix...
lone pet walking better

Hetty58

Oh dear!

Guess who will be the first to complain, when they're told, by ambulance crew, that they won't be going to hospital? (Like my poor neighbour, too old, 85, chances of survival too low.)

She hadn't been out at all since February, shopping delivered, no visitors - still, she caught it.

She did a lot of gardening, though, so we assume it drifted on the air from a neighbour - or possibly from a delivery.

Still, some people always think that they know better, don't they? (There really is no such thing as 'Covid secure')

Hetty58 did your neighbour actually have a positive covid test or just symptoms?
I'm afraid I can't believe that any ambulance crew would take the decision to not take someone to hospital because their survival rate was low. Paramedics really don't make that decision. They would however not take someone of 85 to hospital if they hadn't had a covid test and there was a chance it was just a cold, because they mght pick up covid in the hospital.

growstuff

BlueSky

Hetty very worrying that your poor elderly neighbour still caught Covid despite shielding. If it is in the air then there is no escape.

No, it's not "in the air". The elderly neighbour must have touched something contaminated by virus or been a little too close to somebody and forgotten about it. I assume she's had deliveries of some sort, even if shielding.

All viruses are quite fragile. They're not like bacteria, which can reproduce on their own, but will disappear quite quickly without a host. They have to hook up to a receptor to cause damage. They will circulate in an enclosed space for some hours, but then they disperse and become ineffective.

Someone on Facebook who works in a supermarket says they’re concerned about supermarkets staying open because their s is suffering greatly from staff shortages due to covid. I’m going to be even more careful about deliveries in future even though I do quarantine everything. The man who delivers fruit and vegetables from a local shop was wearing two masks the other day, something he hasn’t done before. I noticed that some news reporters on tv were wearing two masks as well. There was talk at the start of the pandemic about catching the virus via your eyes but this isn’t mentioned any more. If the new variant is more contagious could this be a cause of more infections?

if 66 million people went for a walk on their own
Thought this was the beginning of a very difficult maths problem

Nanna58

Err Growstuff, if 66 million people went for a walk on their own they would be.... oh yes, on their own!!!!

No, they wouldn't because they'd keep bumping into other people.

Suzy3

I have to shield and live on my own I have ms is there anyone else on here living alone

Yes, I live on my own and have underlying health problems and mobility issues. I'd love to be able to go out, but not when so many people just do as they want.

BlueSky

Hetty very worrying that your poor elderly neighbour still caught Covid despite shielding. If it is in the air then there is no escape.

No, it's not "in the air". The elderly neighbour must have touched something contaminated by virus or been a little too close to somebody and forgotten about it. I assume she's had deliveries of some sort, even if shielding.

All viruses are quite fragile. They're not like bacteria, which can reproduce on their own, but will disappear quite quickly without a host. They have to hook up to a receptor to cause damage. They will circulate in an enclosed space for some hours, but then they disperse and become ineffective.

FOLLOW THE RULES TO HELP THE NHS, IF NOT SHAME ON YOU

Jaxjacky

See another thread ‘what does walking near home mean’ about someone fined for being 4 miles from home.

How ridiculous!

See another thread ‘what does walking near home mean’ about someone fined for being 4 miles from home.

Oscar Wilde said that there is very little that is common about common sense as there's so little of it around.

Not we'll well

The problem with this personal "common sense" is that other people will see you out for the second time and think we'll that's OK then! Next thing there will be countless people walking about using their so called "common sense".
We are all in this together-that means obeying the rules.

No sense to it at all. I exercise for as long as I feel inclined and able to - which is usually twice a day with the dog. It's not as if I socialise when exercising. Quite ridiculous to confine people to their homes in this way - and actually very unhealthy

Suzy3. I think there are quite a few people on here who live alone. I am one, having been widowed 4 1/2 years ago.

I did have a friend here over Christmas and up today. She also lives alone so we ‘bubbled’. I have been out and about a little but, she, having a cardiac problem, is not allowed to drive and is scared to go out on her own. Last time she did that she dropped without warning and hit the pavement breaking both arms and her nose.

Having now gone home, she will probably not see another person, apart from delivery people, until this is all over. I can, at least, wrap up and go for a walk if I wish. It is people like her I worry about.

Nvella

How on Earth are they going to police this?

Maybe superfluous dog walks will be policed by police dogs?

I’m not going to do my late night walk if the ground looks frozen which it does at the moment. My dog walk was shorter than usual because it was raining. I’ll check out utube for some exercises tonight. If I don’t exercise I’m tempted to eat more.

How on Earth are they going to police this?

I'm with the fittness brigade here I normally cycle every day with my OH for aproximately an hour. It gets us out in fresh air and keeps out fitness levels up. Howver since the snow and frost we have not gone as we dont wish to have an accident and end up in hospital. Insted we have found excercises to do from You Tube and make sure we do at least half an hour every day. At our ages 72 and 74 we know that if we dont keep our fitness levels up our muscles will atrophy and hasten our aging.

Ah! I get it. I meant I couldn't understand why an ambulance crew would refuse to take an 85 year old woman to hospital, since a lot of covid patients might be around that age. Just awful to think of an old lady being left at home to cope on her own.

moonlighting113..'Doctors and nurses in hospitals all over the country are practically killing themselves endeavouring to save the lives of the over eighties..'

That is what you wrote and caused my reply re what you were implying!, .......apologies again!

My bubbled son has just vacuumed for me Callistemon. That counts doesn't it? (In my defence, I have an excruciatingly bad back at the moment)

Good Lord no!!!! (To lemsip )

Moonlight113..........apologies, Thought you were suggesting over eighties should not be nursed but go straight to the morgue!!