For everyone who's bending the rules!

Elegran it came from scientists in Australia who'd tested someone in November last year and was still found to test positive after quarantining.

The person hadn't displayed any symptoms themselves.

welbeck

and still some people insist on their right to walk to the village every day because they prefer to buy produce every day.
others say london hosps are not overwhelmed. wonder why mayor khan declared a major incident then. guess they'll say it's part of a grand conspiracy or something.
there's no reasoning with stupid, or selfish, arrogant.
take care Marydoll, that must have been a shocking experience in itself quite apart from the medical condition that took you there.

For goodness sake, why shouldn’t someone walk to the village everyday, I believe we are allowed to exercise once a day. Are you saying that this person is stupid etc, that’s a bit harsh and uncalled for and smacks of hysteria, get a grip!!!!

MOnica. I agree with your previous post. I’m sure we need to look outside the box as to how people are catching and transmitting this virus. I know it’s more contagious but something doesn’t add up.

I have read that Japan have identified a different variant.
Nothing much is known about it yet.

Jaxjacky

We have a large supermarket locally that some people are now boycotting because of the numbers of people, lack of distancing, lack of masks and families shopping together. Shops like The Range and Home Bargains are open, I don’t see them as essential. The first lockdown allowed one hour of exercise per day, fewer people about and it was clear, so no debate. We need a proper lockdown again.

But it didn't work last time did it even though far more people were compliant. If it had worked we wouldn't need another one.

But it did work because the r rate came down.

Lockdowns only work if they are done properly, and rules are adhered to by the public ... all of them.

I live overseas, and all of my family (most in the UK), and many of my friends, live in various countries throughout the world. It's been very interesting to see/here how other countries have handled their lockdowns, and quarantines/travel restrictions over the past year.

The UK did far too little, far too late. Far too much toing and froing. Rules made by the government were met with many people digging their heels in, and bleating that they weren't going to be told what to do by others. And any lockdowns you've had have never been what most would consider proper full-on lockdowns, like in other countries ... far too lax to be of much use, and too many people not bothering to follow restrictions anyway.

I don't think that either the government, or the public, are solely to blame. But I do think it's about time that everyone started to pull together, if we ever want to get back to some kind or normality again.

I, like so many others, am desperate to see my family again. A year without them is a year too long. Anyone, who is still intent on bending the rules, should take a long hard look at themselves, and stop being so darned selfish! Sooner or later, one of the many HUNDREDS of deaths each day in the UK will be someone close to them. Sadly, probably only then will it hit home.

*here/hear ... typo, I know! Hate not having edit function!

I think only walk alone and for an hour locally. I say this as I'm slowly going round the bend seeing no one and a walker. People are meeting in groups, with drinks,starting off in twos, for many hours of the day and not use your car to meet up. Also one visitor in your bubble. Not many of them throughout the day, unless you need medical attention and help with everyday activities. People should be told in no uncertain terms the rules, it's been nearly a year and still locked up, I'm furious that my freedom is taken away by this virus and that there's people who won't help it stop spreading. In certain households up to 6 cars arrive every Sunday for family lunch, we see it but they not bothered what neighbors think as they have always done it.

People seem to blame walkers and yet at least you are outside! A lot of people still meet family and friends indoors which is much worse!

Where I live I see nearly everyone being cautious, rule conscious and concerned for others.

Blaming, shaming and scapegoating are easy go-to ways of feeling better but this is a virus and a pandemic. On the whole, no one's to blame unless you want to criticise the country that hatched it and hushed it up. Even then, the people themselves are hardly culpable.

Where I live, I would say 60 percent are wearing masks on buses, perhaps 80 percent in shops.

If all the people who obey all the rules and are staying in and going nowhere are really doing as they say, how do they manage to see all these people they claim are breaking the rules?

By hiding behind their curtains, Monica or watching the news!

I see them because I have to go to work.
Zero hours contract and keyworker.

MayBee70

But it did work because the r rate came down.

But it didn't get rid of the virus. It didn't give the NHS enough time to prepare for a bad winter. Instead it caused untold damage to the economy, family relationships, mental health and our democracy and still didn't prevent the chaos we are seeing today in our hospitals. Lockdowns don't work.

Have you got sources for this Growstuff? I’m a health professional who is required to do home visits and I’m trying to argue that point. Not getting anyway so far though!

I don't think any lockdown has been consistent enough for long enough to draw that conclusion.
A more regulated one, coupled with the vaccine is really our only chance.

And isn't saying "lockdowns only work if..." the same as saying lockdowns don't work.

Not necessarily.
Calling something a lockdown doesn't necessarily mean it is one.

We now have a more virulent variant, we now know that teens can spread the virus, our hospitals are in a state of emergency, and we still have Poundland open.

we still have Poundland open.

Do they sell food, eg tea, sugar?
That may be why.

Yes, that is why.
We also have a sainsbury's, Morrison's, Iceland, Lidl, open, as well as corner shops, the bike shop...

As long as customers and staff obey sensible rules re distancing, masks, hand sanitizing but it doesn't sound as if they are.

MissA I agree with you, as for Poundland, B & M, The Range etc I think they are allowed to stay open because they sell cleaning products and the odd food item.

I cannot see why Garden Centres cannot operate a click and collect system, there is no need to walk aimlessly round a garden centre mid-winter surely?

We have decided since New Year not to go to any supermarkets, we phone the butcher down the road with our order and pop into get it this reduces the amount of time spent in the shop. We are fortunate in as much as we both drive so we can go to the nearest farm shop if we are desperate for something before our next food delivery.

It is much harder for those who do not drive as they cannot be expected to carry a full two weeks/one week shop in one go.

We are all in this horrendous storm together, unfortunately we are in different boats!!!!