Norway Covid Pfizer Vaccine Deaths

Alegrias1

Can someone introduce me to Alegi please?

(sorry, am I being stupid again?)

Sorry Alegrias1 I just abbreviate for quickness.
And 'yes'

If anyone still thinks that the Pfizer vaccine will wreck their love life, they can read about the ingredients at www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-ingredient-list and then come back and tell us which one of those ingredients is the culprit.

I think the reason for people coming up with that notion is that Pfizer make many other medicines, including one which was intended to have that very effect. That one had an ingredient (but not an active one) which is also used in other medications. This may have confused people, and once a conspiracy theory gets out there into the ether, it goes round and round for years.

What's a love life?

Do people still worry about that at the moment? Well I guess that’s all there is left to do!

growstuff

What's a love life?

Well, DH just invited me to join him on the kitchen floor.

(He's putting new kick boards under the units)
I declined, I can see them perfectly well from here.

Yogagirl This is getting funnier and funnier. Why would Pfizer put a sterility drug in the vaccine? And what has viagra got to do with it? Viagra is a help with erectile misfunction.

Sterility is something else entirely with many causes. A man who cannot, as they say, get his end up, can still be fertile and capable of fatherhood. One who can do the business can still be infertile.

The other point you seem unaware of is that viagra came out of patent last year, so if the COVID vaccine causes sterility/ erectile misfunction, whichever you fancy, those who benefit from the boom will not be Pfizer, but all those companies in India, China, etc who will be producing much cheaper generic versions of the drug, not branded versions.

Callistemon.

Has he been vaccinated yet? I'm sure a little prick won't hurt.

growstuff

What's a love life?

That's something I want too

growstuff

Callistemon.

Has he been vaccinated yet? I'm sure a little prick won't hurt.

They just phoned a minute ago offering him an appointment!

Callistemon

growstuff

Callistemon.

Has he been vaccinated yet? I'm sure a little prick won't hurt.

They just phoned a minute ago offering him an appointment!

Make sure he ingests a spam blocker before he goes, in case Bill Gates really does want to know what he has for breakfast (or wants to spy on him on the kitchen floor).

Porridge
Every day, if Bill wants to know.

Callistemon

growstuff

Callistemon.

Has he been vaccinated yet? I'm sure a little prick won't hurt.

They just phoned a minute ago offering him an appointment!

Yay ! It’s really exciting to hear of all these people getting their jabs.

Original nonsense has been deleted.

I've just put this link onto another thread, It fits well on here too.
www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science?language=en

Elegran

I've just put this link onto another thread, It fits well on here too.
www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science?language=en

Thanks for this link. I used to like reading his Giardian column. Hadn’t seen the TED talk. He makes it all very accessible, but he’s a very clever man

Espee, they were frail and elderly. Are we supposed to have herd immunity? We can't carry on without immunisation, there might be casualties but the NHS is on its knees as is the care sector, it's not fair on them. The time is approaching that we have to carry on with life, being more careful of course, but start living again. Let the people of working age go back towork and the children and students to learning.

This was on our talkback radio today and they are delaying the vaccine here for a while but really it will be just that, a couple of months or so. I think they may as well get on with it really because it will be a long time before long term side effects are known and we can’t afford to wait for years. Half of us would be six foot under by then.

Where is "here" please nanna8?

growstuff

The Sun, Express and DM have reported on it.

Well if they reported it we know there will be no bias. They are always concerned to report nothing but the truth.

nanna, can you mention any vaccine which has had long term side effects and how long is 'long term'?

M0nica

*nanna*, can you mention any vaccine which has had long term side effects and how long is 'long term'?

I remember well, not that long ago [maybe 5yrs] a trial of a new vaccine. They offered students £1,000 to take part. 3 died, others in long term commas, others left in wheelchairs for life.

Please provide the evidence for this claim Yogagirl?

Casdon

Please provide the evidence for this claim Yogagirl?

It was in the UK, on the news on the radio. Look yourself, I'm going to do some yoga. Namaste`

Do you mean this?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35766627
If you do, it was a drug trial, not a vaccine trial, and nobody died. They were left with long term impact though, and there was a public inquiry with changes made as a consequence.

If you are going to make the claims you are doing it’s important to provide accurate information. If it isn’t this trial, the onus is on you to provide alternative facts.

Perhaps Yogagirl means this trial? www.genengnews.com/topics/genome-editing/ziopharm-confirms-three-patient-deaths-in-gene-therapy-trial/

They had taken part in a gene therapy study "designed to assess the combination of Ad-RTS-hIL-12 with orally administered veledimex in patients with recurrent or progressive glioblastoma (GBM) or grade III malignant glioma" and, said ziopharm, had already "experienced multiple recurrences" of their cancers, and for these patients "prognoses are particularly poor,”

It occurred in 2016, as it was mentioned in www.genengnews.com/a-lists/unlucky-13-top-clinical-trial-failures-of-2016/ so may be the one that *Yogagirl heard about.