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COVID why do suffers have such different outcomes

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growstuff Tue 19-Jan-21 19:30:56

There's nothing "magic" about why some people suffer more than others. There will be a logical, scientific reason. It's just that it hasn't been discovered yet.

Smoking affects many organs in the body, including arteries and the heart. It's not just that it causes cancer. It depends on the combination of lifestyle factors. Both my parents were heavy smokers and both died from lung cancer, as did one of my grandfathers. My mother also had COPD.

It could be that smokers already have "sticky" blood, which makes the effects of Covid-19 worse. They certainly have lower oxygen levels.

rosie1959 Tue 19-Jan-21 19:21:31

Smoking is a contentious one some studies were surprised to find that smokers were less likely to catch it in the first place but would tend to struggle more if they did
In fact at one point they were giving nicotine patches out in France
Being a smoker I am rarely unwell I visit the doctor every 20 years or so

PamelaJ1 Tue 19-Jan-21 19:10:41

sueDonim re. family members. Could it be something to do with lifestyle.
Families tend to have a similar diet, may smoke, etc. My family eat quite healthily, exercise regularly, don’t smoke. That gives us a head start.

growstuff Tue 19-Jan-21 19:04:38

MayBee70

Rosie: I don’t understand that either. I did think at the start of the pandemic that some people would have some sort of immunity to it but no matter how much I listen to or read I can’t totally understand the range of symptoms. Especially when someone in a household has it but no one else catches it.

The range of symptoms is because it causes clots, which block off supplies of oxygen etc to a multitude of organs. It's systemic rather than just respiratory.

growstuff Tue 19-Jan-21 19:02:40

rosie1959

Oopsadaisy1 Now that’s a scary thought that it was made rather than an occurrence of nature

... and the stuff of conspiracy theorists.

I have no doubt scientists will come up with some solutions one day. It could be something genetic or it could be that some people receive a higher viral load when they're infected or that they have more ACE2 receptors (overweight people do) or that people are infected with slightly different variants or or or ...

MayBee70 Tue 19-Jan-21 18:56:56

Rosie: I don’t understand that either. I did think at the start of the pandemic that some people would have some sort of immunity to it but no matter how much I listen to or read I can’t totally understand the range of symptoms. Especially when someone in a household has it but no one else catches it.

rosie1959 Tue 19-Jan-21 18:52:48

Oopsadaisy1 Now that’s a scary thought that it was made rather than an occurrence of nature

SueDonim Tue 19-Jan-21 18:51:48

Yes, it’s puzzling. I am also puzzled by families where several members have died of Covid. Given that statistically the vast majority of people survive CV, you’d have thought it was very unlikely that more than one family member would lose their life to it, but you seem to read stories where several family members pass away.

Do they have a genetic issue that makes survival less likely, (although that wouldn’t account for couples dying, as they aren’t reacted) or do they get a particularly virulent strain?

Oopsadaisy1 Tue 19-Jan-21 18:44:19

If we knew that we would be on the way to beating it.

We still don’t know how long or how severe Long Covid will be on those who survived.

It’s a very clever Virus........you could almost say that it was made so that it couldn’t be cured, a bit like Novachok (scuse spelling )

Cabbie21 Tue 19-Jan-21 18:43:20

Yes, I have just seen on TV news a young man fighting for his life with COVID, whilst an old lady has come through it and is celebrating her 105 th birthday today.

rosie1959 Tue 19-Jan-21 18:30:23

No sure if anyone else wonders why some people can contract Covid and have few symptoms or be mildly unwell yet others are seriously effected to the point of death. If it was all elderly and vulnerable that were seriously effected it may be more understandable but young fit people are becoming so ill