The end REALLY is in sight ???

Beautifully put Alegrias1

I think those people are amazing too. It doesn’t offend me to read praise heaped upon them. I don’t believe ‘our’ vaccine is any better than anyone else’s. What does perplex me is why certain posters take umbrage when someone wants to applaud the UK effort. There’s been no flag waving or jingoism. It’s a lame attempt to sneer and put others in their place. It’s misplaced, misjudged and more than a little spiteful.

Alegrias1

Yep OK, I give up. Rule Britannia.

Me too. Dear lord.. Reading some of the comments on here, I'm amazed some didn't refuse the Pfizer vaccine on grounds that it's "foreign"!

tickingbird

I think those people are amazing too. It doesn’t offend me to read praise heaped upon them. I don’t believe ‘our’ vaccine is any better than anyone else’s. What does perplex me is why certain posters take umbrage when someone wants to applaud the UK effort. There’s been no flag waving or jingoism. It’s a lame attempt to sneer and put others in their place. It’s misplaced, misjudged and more than a little spiteful.

Enough tickingbird

I applaud the UK effort when there is something to applaud. The vaccine rollout for example. The Oxford vaccine.

I don't immediately take refuge in patriotism and metaphorical flag waving as soon as somebody in the UK does something well. Especially if somebody in another country is doing exactly the same thing. Personal attacks on my motives and personality are uncalled for, but not entirely unexpected.

Gransnet isn't exactly a hotbed of praise for the UK government though. No matter what Boris does or says is immediately criticised

tickingbird

“Jingoism”?? It just makes a change to read something good about the UK as, on here especially, it’s constant bashing by those incapable of objectivity. The constant sneering and put downs and all because of loathing the present government and losing the referendum and various attempts to overturn the result.

It would be refreshing to read something positive for a change. If Labour were in government (heaven forbid) then the usual critics on here would be putting a completely different spin on matters.

Well said tickingbird. Good to see more people daring to stick their heads above the parapet. I’d almost given up hope!

Amazing after the years of bashing Britain by some bitter, self righteous people, they want to ban any positive comments and fall back to their default mode of misery and negativity.

Excuse me Alegrias but you don’t decide when it’s enough. You assume my post was aimed at you personally- it wasn’t. However, you felt it appropriate to call my previous post ridiculous. Pot and kettle spring to mind!

"Enough" in that I don't have the energy to argue this any more. But feel free carry on

Sorry about your positive thread GagaJo

It should have stayed a positive thread but, unfortunately, it was hijacked by the bash Britain brigade..

The problem is tickingbird every thing Boris says is world beatin,or the best, falls apart at the seams .The man cant move his lips without exaggerating or just plain lying Remember his world beating Track and Trace..the one that for a number of months was only tracing a very small number of contacts ?
Think I'll sit it out and see who produces a new vaccine suitable for all variants BEFORE I start heaping praise on any of them .And hope Bojo doesn't let us all out of lockdown with promises of cheap restaurant meals for all AGAIN.Way to go if we want to be right back where we are in anther month

No one was bashing Britain. They might have been having a poke at a few fractious posts though.

It isn't just the 'bash Britain' brigade. It is also the opposite side.

Can't we just keep it bipartisan?

That may well be Paddyanne but it’s not about praising Boris or his government. This thread has become political because some just can’t help but pour scorn on anyone that feels the UK have done well regarding the vaccine. It’s nothing to do with Boris and everything to do with the scientists. I’m off now as it always ends up the same. I haven’t checked if there’s any threads about H & M’s new baby announcement but I suspect there’ll be similar posts if there is.

What I DO think deserves praise is the organisation of the vaccination procedure in our area - Tyneside. It has been brilliant.
Does this vary from one part of the UK to another.?

Blinko. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the Mafia are cashing in on the Covid vaccines. Illicit fortunes have already been made from the epidemic. There are already people offering vaccine doses on the internet. People who send off for them will probably be conned out of their money. Alternatively, and a very scary thought, the purchasers must be stupid enough to inject themselves with whatever random stuff that is sent to them.

tickingbird

That may well be Paddyanne but it’s not about praising Boris or his government. This thread has become political because some just can’t help but pour scorn on anyone that feels the UK have done well regarding the vaccine. It’s nothing to do with Boris and everything to do with the scientists. I’m off now as it always ends up the same. I haven’t checked if there’s any threads about H & M’s new baby announcement but I suspect there’ll be similar posts if there is.

Actually it started because one poster started linking the success of the vaccine with nationalistic support for GB (not sure what happened to Northern Ireland) and some have sneered at the people who dislike nationalism.

Many people will have had the Pfizer vaccine, which is nothing at all to do with the UK. I would also guess anything that some of the scientists and doctors involved in the development of the Oxford/AZ vaccine and its roll out aren't British. Astra Zeneca is a British/Swedish company with employees from all over the world. They also have access to all the research of scientists from all over the world.

If ever there were a pursuit which benefits from globalisation, it's science. The UK attracts some of the best scientists in the world and will hopefully continue to do so.

The countries of the UK have been able to vaccinate people so quickly because it has a national health service, which people will hopefully fight to save.

tickingbird

It should have stayed a positive thread but, unfortunately, it was hijacked by the bash Britain brigade..

It was hijacked by nationalistic silliness.

Well said Bluecat.

Growstuff It was hijacked by nationalistic silliness.

Actually it was hijacked by Tory baiters with an axe to grind.

Kamiso

tickingbird

“Jingoism”?? It just makes a change to read something good about the UK as, on here especially, it’s constant bashing by those incapable of objectivity. The constant sneering and put downs and all because of loathing the present government and losing the referendum and various attempts to overturn the result.

It would be refreshing to read something positive for a change. If Labour were in government (heaven forbid) then the usual critics on here would be putting a completely different spin on matters.

Well said tickingbird. Good to see more people daring to stick their heads above the parapet. I’d almost given up hope!

Amazing after the years of bashing Britain by some bitter, self righteous people, they want to ban any positive comments and fall back to their default mode of misery and negativity.

How do you know whether I'm bitter and self-righteous? Just more gaslighting! It's all over the place.

tickingbird

Growstuff It was hijacked by nationalistic silliness.

Actually it was hijacked by Tory baiters with an axe to grind.

Wrong!

Look back! Anyway, I thought you were going to look up some stuff about Royal babies.

No I’m pleased for the couple if they have a new baby to look forward to but I couldn’t face the teeth gnashing and apoplectic frenzy of the anti Royalists although it’s interesting to note they’re all over the place on that. If posters are critical of H & M the anti mob are out in force crying racism blah blah. If they’re praising and congratulating H & M, no doubt they’ll be sneering and making snide remarks re another freeloader......yawn. I’d rather watch tennis. Aussie Open’s on. G’Day Sheila.. I mean growstuff.

tickingbird

“Jingoism”?? It just makes a change to read something good about the UK as, on here especially, it’s constant bashing by those incapable of objectivity. The constant sneering and put downs and all because of loathing the present government and losing the referendum and various attempts to overturn the result.

It would be refreshing to read something positive for a change. If Labour were in government (heaven forbid) then the usual critics on here would be putting a completely different spin on matters.

Actually tickingbird it was hijacked by posters who didn't like being told that "doing the same as lots of other people" isn't the same as "leading the world".

The government, Brexit, the Labour party all in one post when the rest of us were talking about vaccines. One might suspect paranoia......

Oh are you still here Alegrias? I thought you’d had enough?

Yeah, had my tea, got my second wind