The end REALLY is in sight ???

Thanks to anyone who can give us back our freedom!

tickingbird Nothing whatsoever to to with your ridiculous accusations of Britain Bashing. What a puerile, ill mannered attitude to others who have proved you wrong, trying in vain to explain to you and others, this was not JUST a British venture as was clearly stated in the OP’s link!

Neither was it anything whatsoever to do with politics. I arrived at my conclusion simply by reading the facts offered to all.

This virus will be with us for a very long time So vaccination will be a regular occurence

Aveline

Gransnet isn't exactly a hotbed of praise for the UK government though. No matter what Boris does or says is immediately criticised

My thoughts exactly Aveline

Kamiso

tickingbird

“Jingoism”?? It just makes a change to read something good about the UK as, on here especially, it’s constant bashing by those incapable of objectivity. The constant sneering and put downs and all because of loathing the present government and losing the referendum and various attempts to overturn the result.

It would be refreshing to read something positive for a change. If Labour were in government (heaven forbid) then the usual critics on here would be putting a completely different spin on matters.

Well said tickingbird. Good to see more people daring to stick their heads above the parapet. I’d almost given up hope!

Amazing after the years of bashing Britain by some bitter, self righteous people, they want to ban any positive comments and fall back to their default mode of misery and negativity.

Well said.

sharon103

Aveline

Gransnet isn't exactly a hotbed of praise for the UK government though. No matter what Boris does or says is immediately criticised

My thoughts exactly Aveline

Maybe it would be if the government were more praiseworthy.

In any case, you seem to be confusing different concepts such as a government, a country and its people.

I know some of you just can't tolerate any criticism of the current government, but you really do need to take a deep breath and start being more realistic and analytic.

sharon103

Kamiso

tickingbird

“Jingoism”?? It just makes a change to read something good about the UK as, on here especially, it’s constant bashing by those incapable of objectivity. The constant sneering and put downs and all because of loathing the present government and losing the referendum and various attempts to overturn the result.

It would be refreshing to read something positive for a change. If Labour were in government (heaven forbid) then the usual critics on here would be putting a completely different spin on matters.

Well said tickingbird. Good to see more people daring to stick their heads above the parapet. I’d almost given up hope!

Amazing after the years of bashing Britain by some bitter, self righteous people, they want to ban any positive comments and fall back to their default mode of misery and negativity.

Well said.

Why is it "Well said"?

Nobody wants to ban positive comments, but some people just can't cope with anything less than non-critical euphoria. They must be feeling very defensive about their heroes.

As a matter of interest, I know the Conservative Party has a bunch of people engaged in flooding social media with positive comments. Sometimes, they get it wrong and post the programming code by mistake or there are dozens of posts from allegedly different people with the exact same wording. I don't suppose you know anything about that.

growstuff

The UK was a world leader in genomics even when it was in the UK. Unfortunately, research has been hit by a drop in EU funding and difficulties in recruiting EU post-docs (coupled with new immigration restrictions generally), but it's still good. Covid has actually brought more funding into the area.

Why did you have to turn it into a jingoistic battle cry?

And why do you have to label pride in our nation’s great achievement as ‘jingoistic’?

Well done to those at the uni in Nottinghamshire and I hope they will send it over here to Australia too.

If you went into a research lab in any university in the U.K. you would find scientists from many nations - France, Germany, China, you name it., you would also find collaboration and sharing of data with other scientists from all over the world , that’s why it’s inaccurate to claim “Brutish” scientists are responsible for this and that. as if they are all just British people working in isolation, THEY AREN’T ! Congratulations to them including the British ones.

Kalu What a rude, aggressive person you are. You were rude to greyknitter earlier in the thread - ordering her to read some link and now you’re making personal attacks on me. Dismissing my posts as puerile and accusing me of being ill mannered! Oh the irony. You need to calm down.

Many “top” British scientists are working in the US.It’s not an insular world, despite what many may wish for.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is a worry?

OP includes a link that many people don't read, or do read and completely misunderstand.

Some posters point out their mistake.

People who haven't read/understood the link immediately accuse them of not supporting for our country and shout about how terrible they are. Others jump on the bandwagon. Pitchforks are made ready. ?

Just shows how Rupert Murdoch got to where he is today, doesn't it?

Scíence is far more multi-national than many other disciplines of work. And, thus they do produce marvellous results when giving the finance required.
Great thing about this development from Nottingham Uni is not just how it will help Corona Virus vaccinations, but is likely to revolutionise ALL virus vaccinations in the future. This could include such things as HIV - which has never had any preventative vaccine produced.
Just thank goodness for these wonderful international group of scientists. which, of course, are extending work and knowledge from other similar groups

For God’s sake stop bickering. It is absolutely bl***y fantastic news that a vaccine is on the way to defeat this terrible virus which is the scourge of the whole world. Britain has played it’s part so why shouldn’t people feel proud? Of course all scientists work together and swop findings but it all takes time and money. Our government took a gamble and invested and it is paying off. Be glad.

The Nottingham/Scancell collaboration won't have any impact on vaccines for HIV as far as I can see. Maybe you can point me to some other information about it Franbern?

The BioNTec and Moderna vaccines, created in Germany and the US respectively and based on mRNA technology, may lead to the creation of HIV vaccines in the future. That's why the work probably deserves the Nobel prize.

25Avalon

For God’s sake stop bickering. It is absolutely bl***y fantastic news that a vaccine is on the way to defeat this terrible virus which is the scourge of the whole world. Britain has played it’s part so why shouldn’t people feel proud? Of course all scientists work together and swop findings but it all takes time and money. Our government took a gamble and invested and it is paying off. Be glad.

Have you actually read the link or any of the thread?

The reason the article was published in the first place is that the Uni of Nottingham/Scancell are looking for funding and a pharmaceutical partner. The government haven't invested anything in them, so you can drop that little fallacy.

The Government did provide £66mn for the funding of the Oxford lab that has created a completely different vaccine. Well done the government. Hooray.

but that is a completely different topic

All this talk about science. Well one thing that scientists of all kinds and nationalities like is facts and clarity. We could do with some of that on this thread.

tickingbird

Kalu What a rude, aggressive person you are. You were rude to greyknitter earlier in the thread - ordering her to read some link and now you’re making personal attacks on me. Dismissing my posts as puerile and accusing me of being ill mannered! Oh the irony. You need to calm down.

Oh the irony indeed!

No wonder some need to change their name!!

As I said stop bickering and rejoice. Rejoice! Rejoice!

I tried starting a thread rejoicing about the Oxford Vaccine on here when it was first announced. I got told that things weren't over yet, we had a long way to go, the effectiveness probably wasn't all that good.

I tried starting a thread rejoicing about the vaccine rollout, to be told that the Scottish rollout was a disaster and thank god for the army.

Rejoicing isn't a thing that happens a lot on Gransnet. Unless you can couch it in terms that doesn't wind up the true patriots.

tickingbird

No wonder some need to change their name!!

Not sure who you are referring to tickingbird or your meaning.

Come on then Alegrias1 let you and I forget politics and just plain rejoice. Maybe we can get others to join in. Let’s celebrate scientists everywhere.

I'm all for that 25Avalon! ????‍?

The living scientist I admire most is Jocelyn Bell Burnell. Although Sarah Gilbert's coming close right now ?

I read it Alegrias haven't commented much as I broke my neck tripping over an abandoned union flag and some ticker tape...