Astrazeneca vaccine suspended..... Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by GNHQ*

I don’t understand why European countries and the EU are demanding more vaccines because according to news reports, they have warehouses full of the stuff. Nor do I understand why threats would be made to stop exports to Britain of the AZ vaccine because the AZ development was funded by Britain. Hence the term being used in France ‘the British vaccine.’ It’s impossible to not think this is totally political. Nothing to do with Brexit, but political just the same.

It is normal practice to suspend the use of any drug or vaccine that may be the cause of sudden death due to a thrombosis.

Pfizer needs suspending as well then

This is from the BMJ

The reports of blood clots were investigated, to probe for any yet unidentified causal links between the vaccine and blood clots, with the concluding findings from the World Health Organisation, The European Medicine Agency (EMA) and UK’s Medicine and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency saying there is no evidence for the vaccine causing blood clots (6). The EMA (7) has stated that ‘the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine in preventing COVID-19, with its associated risk of hospitalisation and death, outweigh the risks of side effects’, although investigation is ongoing, with an extraordinary meeting on the 18th March to conclude on the information gathered. Additionally, the MRHA (8) has advised that ‘more than 11 million doses of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca have now been administered across the UK, and the number of blood clots reported after having the vaccine is not greater than the number that would have occurred naturally in the vaccinated population’ and importantly that ‘people should still go and get their COVID-19 vaccine when asked to do so’.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56375307

Interesting article on reaction to vaccination.

Ellianne

Maybe fewer long haul flights account for a fair drop in the number of clots GrannyGravy?

And fewer people having surgical procedures which can cause an increase in risk in developing blood clots.

Agree Ellianne regarding flights, mind you the inflight entertainment and even the menu’s remind you to keep moving and suggest leg exercises.

Callistemon with fewer Covid patients in hospital and on ventilators, the NHS really do need to crack-on with all the delayed procedures. Their are people dying of other ailments everyday, the cancer situation is extremely worrying.

*there not their, sorry for typo!

GrannyGravy yes, of course, but I meant there is an associated risk of blood clots after surgery and with few surgical procedures taking place over the last year, cases of blood clots would be lower.

I agree with you Callistemon ?

One thought.. The Contraceptive Pill has a serious contraindications - PE aka blood clot.

I understood from a radio interview with one of the doctors involved that the blood clots that were formed were of a special type and quite rare. All those suffering were very elderly and ill.

I do not think he was talking about the usual clots formed as given above.

Maybe the EU should think about suspending UvdL and not the AZ vaccine.

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour and it is political.

I know someone who developed a clot after having the Pfizer vaccine. Who’s to say that she wouldn’t have developed a clot if she hadn’t had the vaccine.

The Ametican obstetrician who had a clot and died after the Pfizer jab was 56, not old.

My friend in France sent me this today. "I've caught the English vaccine."
The inference being the whole country has turned into a nation of hypochondriacs.
The worry is that not even black humour will reverse the damage now.

Sadly Elianne. All the comments from French and Italian friends are on those lines. Many cancelled their jab but I will remind them it’s not just after the AZ that you could have a blood clot!

Must admit that I’ve been wondering the same, Firecracker. Produce enough bad publicity about the AZ that virtually the whole world will shun it and buy one that’s 5 times more expensive instead?
It’d be interesting to learn who has major shareholdings in Pfizer. Or in any other that’s not not-for-profit.

A dd who incidentally lives in Oxford, not far from where the AZ was developed, just told me that a French friend locally thinks Macron should be jailed! She is so angry with him - her elderly parents back home cannot expect the vaccine any time soon.
A number of the parents at Gdcs’ school were involved in developing the AZ.

My formerly extremely staunch Remainer dd just added that she’s beginning to be ‘thankful that we’re out of this shit - negligence, arrogance, misinformed (deliberate) falsehoods.’ (Her words just now.)

Political? A strike against Brexit ? What are you on? Never heard such rubbish in my life. Hyper cautious,yes, but really. The UK is not that important to the vast continent of Europe. Get a grip.

If you dislike so much about our country why do you stick around on here to read things nanna8 ?
Every time your name pops up on these threads it’s yet another rant about something to do with our country, from Brexit, the vaccine programme or the Royal family.

Why? You are in Australia I believe.

JE it doesn't matter if nanna8 is from Mars, she can post anything she likes that isn't banned.

I disagree with her often but I don't think it's my place - or yours - to question why she is on this site!

Oh, and this time, I believe she's just about got it right.

Alegrias1

JE it doesn't matter if nanna8 is from Mars, she can post anything she likes that isn't banned.

I disagree with her often but I don't think it's my place - or yours - to question why she is on this site!

Oh, and this time, I believe she's just about got it right.

I think the xenophobia on this thread is getting out of hand and in this case could be perceived as a personal attack.

But it's not just Brexit or vaccine envy is it?
France takes the top spot as Britain's greatest historical enemy. There has always been conflict between the two nations.

Ellianne

But it's not just Brexit or vaccine envy is it?
France takes the top spot as Britain's greatest historical enemy. There has always been conflict between the two nations.

Good grief.

Alegrias1

Ellianne

But it's not just Brexit or vaccine envy is it?
France takes the top spot as Britain's greatest historical enemy. There has always been conflict between the two nations.

Good grief.

No hope is there?

The operative words were "historical conflicts" and yes, actually over 20 of them in two centuries alone.

No hope for what? suziewoozie?

I’ve just seen on SkyNews that almost all the AZ vaccine needed for the UK is manufactured in Britain so theoretically there shouldn’t be a problem of supply of that particular vaccine. Pfizer however is manufactured in Belgium, so I wonder is it the Pfizer vaccine that Ursula von der Leyen is referring to when she threatens to disrupt supplies to Britain?

Can anyone explain why there are suggestions/ threats of disruption of exports of vaccine to Britain whilst European countries are sitting on millions of AZ doses? The suggestions are that somewhere between 7 and 14 million doses are stashed in fridges in Europe not being used because the Europeans have been scared witless about their safety. Why do they need more from Britain?

I'm Scottish. We've always quite liked the French. Auld Alliance and all that.

Yes, I'm rambling a bit. Nothing more surreal than half the other posts on this thread though.