Astrazeneca vaccine suspended..... Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by GNHQ*

Just said now on SKY news that the 30 or so cases of blot clots is slightly more unusual in that they’ve all occurred in the BRAIN.

Which is why so many countries have paused the use of AZ.

It’s a minute percentage out of the many millions of jabs that have been administered worldwide.
But it IS a concern.

I read this just now and was HUGELY reassured by para. 3 ...
My underlining.

“Yesterday, the Norwegian Medicines Agency and the Norwegian Institute of Public Health (NIPH) informed about an unexpected death from a brain haemorrhage in Tynset after vaccination with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca.

Today (March 13), we received three more reports of severe cases of blood clots or brain haemorrhages in younger people who have received the AstraZeneca vaccine. These are now receiving hospital treatment.

“_Common to these patients is that they have had a reduced number of blood platelets. Blood clots and subsequent brain haemorrhages are a rare condition_.

“The NIPH has put the AstraZeneca vaccine on hold in the coronavirus immunisation programme. Now it is the Norwegian Medicines Agency's role to follow up on these suspected side effects and take the necessary measures in this serious situation,” says Geir Bukholm, Director of the Division of Infection Control and Environmental Health at the NIPH.

Duh.

Urmstongran

Just said now on SKY news that the 30 or so cases of blot clots is slightly more unusual in that they’ve all occurred in the BRAIN.

Which is why so many countries have paused the use of AZ.

It’s a minute percentage out of the many millions of jabs that have been administered worldwide.
But it IS a concern.

Haven’t caught up with this - will have a look, thanks. I just think the countries putting it on pause shouldn’t be scoffed at so for doing. I don’t see the Netherlands or Denmark as counties that would act uncaringly. I had AZ and am not concerned thus far.

The number of blood clots is vanishingly small and no-one has proved a causal relationship. The number is no more than is expected in the population under normal circumstances, so there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the one causes the other.

I had it, but I’m not worried ....que sera sera....

Luckygirl

The number of blood clots is vanishingly small and no-one has proved a causal relationship. The number is no more than is expected in the population under normal circumstances, so there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the one causes the other.

That’s why they are pausing - not stopping - whilst they investigate. And from what Urm posted, it’s not as simple as the expected numbers of blood clots but where. My understanding would be that it’s much more likely in the final analysis to be a statistical blip given the numbers involved. It’s just a pity that this is on top of the failures in procurement and roll out. We’ll know soon enough I expect .

I think Luckygirl the fact that these have all been brain haemorrhages is what has paused the rollout in these countries as this is a slightly more unusual finding.

All my family (so far) have received AZ with no adverse effects. Then again, I assume none of us had a pre-existing low platelet count.

Also, as Himself just said, would those with a low platelet count have had a brain clot with an alternative vaccine? We have no way of testing that theory.

X posts sw but yes, that’s what I meant.

As an aside, the UK scientists are ‘baffled’ by this pause saying a person is MORE likely to suffer blood clots from Covid than from the vaccine.

Our daughter had 9 weeks off work before Christmas with long covid. At one stage her breathing altered, it scared her. She said inspiration felt ‘crackly’ and she was very anxious what damage Covid might be doing internally to her organs.

Long story short, an x-ray of her lungs was done later that day. The A&E doctor looked at the x-ray and said ‘well I’m happy to tell you there are no clots showing in your lungs’. That freaked her out as she hadn’t realised this might be a possibility. The doctor shrugged and said ‘it’s a new virus and we’re learning new stuff all the tine’.

Look at Kate Garraway’s poor husband.

I’ll shut up now and let someone else have a turn.

Urmstongran

I’ll shut up now and let someone else have a turn.

Ok - my turn. I think we( in the widest sense of the word not GN ) should just butt out of passing criticism of other countries and their vaccine policies. We’re all sovereign counties are we not? As I’ve said earlier, I’m just sorry that other countries ( not just European ones) are not in the same position as us in terms of roll our.

There have been 30 reports of thrombolytic events in the EU out of 5 million vaccinations, not 30 specifically related to brain haemorrhages. Denmark reported one death, and several other patients who had low platelet counts, and there is very little evidence to support this being an issue in the events reported by other countries. Here’s a lowdown, there are lots of others online. www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-why-are-countries-suspending-the-astrazeneca-vaccine
I think it’s reassuring that there is an investigation because it shows that adverse events are taken seriously, even if as seems likely in this case the vaccine is not the cause.

Why is AZ now being referred to as the British vaccine?

I recall many people being annoyed that the British were taking credit when we first started to use it.

Whatever. I agree that we shouldn't be criticising other countries for their decisions.

I just hope the EU manages to get as many people immunised asap.

I have family and friends in Spain and Italy and they're worried.

No Urmstongran you carry on because it is important we pick up every bit of information we can. As your daughter's doctor said, it's a new virus and we're learning all the time.
Back in December 2020 I asked GN to delete a post I made on a jab thread about a certain childhood vaccine causing thrombocytopenia in a baby in our family. I thought it might have worried people unnecessarily. It is probably only a tiny number of cases where this happens, but like Urm's daughter, when it does actually happen, or it when it is a possibility, it freaks you out.

? Ellienne.

Thank you for a very balanced and factual post, Casdon

Good posts from many on here but I can see how easily people could be frightened and refuse the vaccine or at least the AZ (which I had). I’ve seen various posts on fb in France and Italy tonight stating this.

BlueSky

Good posts from many on here but I can see how easily people could be frightened and refuse the vaccine or at least the AZ (which I had). I’ve seen various posts on fb in France and Italy tonight stating this.

I agree - it’s just that there’s no solution is there? All we can do is what we are doing with our scientists reassuring us and keep the dial down. But media coverage can’t be controlled. And you’re right, once the genie is out of the bottle.....Look at the damage Wakefield did and how long the impact of that lasted.

Blooming heck! I hope there's nothing wrong with it. I just had mine today.

The Dr in America who died and was in the news a few months ago died of a blood clotting problem after the jab. If only I could remember his name, I could google and try to find out what type of vaccine he had. His wife said he was perfectly healthy before the vaccine.

Scrub that ^ I just found his story (Dr Gregory Michael) and he died of Immune thrombocytopenia after the Pfizer Vaccine. It was this blood clotting failure that caused a brain haemorrhage.

It seems that reactions are rare but that they can happen.

If any of you ever used/use the pill, implants, injections for birth control, or are on HRT, did you worry about the much more likely increased chance of clots? If the answer is no then don't fret too much about the vaccine. If it was worth the risk to stop a baby and a hot flush, it's worth the lesser risk to save your own life and that of others.

I wonder what will happen if a link is found?
Will they suspend use permanently or just list these rare blood clots as a possible side effect??
I’m due to have my 2nd dose of the AZ in May so this is all very worrying.

Had the first, waiting for the next one, not worried in the slightest