Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

I’m sorry about your friend Savvy. It’s awful when you see the daily statistics and realise that someone you know is one of them. Has anyone been listening to various blogs that Dr John has been doing about ivermectin? They seem to be having good results from it inSouth America.

Last week I lost a friend to covid. He hadn't had the jab because he was ill in hospital with covid at the time it was rolled out, and he was ill for months. Covid doesn't always kill quickly.

I've had my first, my second is in less than 3 weeks and I'll be attending. I know no one whose refused it, even those who, like me, are needle phobic.

The vaccine was able to be rushed through partly because of the money that was literally thrown at anyone doing any research into it, but also because its a coronavirus so they had a road map to vaccines for similar coronaviruses which they were able to adapt. They also had a lot of volunteers willing to be guinea pigs in the vaccine trials.

I hadn't realised that Andrew Wakefield still had such devoted followers varian Horrifying to see the way autistic children have been treated thanks to his theories.

I wonder if the roaring trade done by charlatans in the US is down to the cost of medical care over there. It must be very tempting if someone offers you a cure all for a few dollars. And as they said Covid is an absolute gift for them. Don't worry about having to pay for hospital and drugs, just have a bottle of my vitamin mix and you'll be back at work tomorrow.

Seen The Anti-Vax Conspiracy?
Watch it here on All 4:

www.channel4.com/programmes/the-anti-vax-conspiracy?cntsrc=social_share_android_the_anti_vax_conspiracy

Long covid seems to be so similar to ME. I hope that research into it (I assume some is being done) will help ME sufferers too.

DS2 is a vegan and has had his AZ vax as has his partner who actually had Covid in the early days of the pandemic.I have heard that it doesn't matter too much if teenagers catch the virus, but an expert whom I heard on the radio today made the point that even if one gets a mild dose of Covid19, one could still be afflicted with Long Covid. This is true of my niece, who recovered from a not-too-serious dose but now does suffer from Long Covid with symptoms not unlike those of ME. She has fatigue, intermittent fevers and headaches but luckily her heart and lungs are unaffected.

Every thing I see, immensely long queues at vaccination hubs and people, young people waiting hours to get the jab, suggest that there is absolutely no reluctance in the young to have the jab. Obviously there will be a few, but otherwards they all seem to be shouting and saying 'bring it on'.

Yes, that’s what I thought. I’ve wondered for a long time if that would cause problems with some people.

NotSpaghetti

I think the vegan link is because of the horseshoe crab blood situation.
I thought someone here might be better informed, Doodledog

Don’t look at me .

I was just saying that the only objector I know does so on vegan grounds. It’s something to do with chimpanzees I think.

I’m glad to hear that Buffybee and it maybe that the lure of foreign travel will persuade many people, especially younger people, to get themselves vaccinated.

I think the vegan link is because of the horseshoe crab blood situation.
I thought someone here might be better informed, Doodledog

My Ds and wife were reluctant because they caught Covid last year, so said they would be protected.
I’m relieved that they have had their first jabs now but only because they thought it would stop them from travelling abroad.

There’s were lots of young people queuing up to be vaccinated at the newly opened Twickenham vaccine hub yesterday.

JaneJudge
That’s what I thought I know they’re doing quite well down here in the south west with vaccinations but I was gobsmacked to hear that!!

Oh, and he's nearly 40 - I'm not sure that he counts as one of 'the young', although it seems it to me?

choughdancer

Thought I would just confirm that being vegan is not a reason for not taking the vaccine. The Vegan Society is quite clear on this, as with other medications; I am still vegan even though I inject insulin daily!

www.vegansociety.com/news/news/vegan-society-response-covid-19-vaccine

We discussed this upthread. The point is that the Vegan Society is just an information source for vegans. It is not the head of a church, or otherwise in any position to grant dispensations to vegans.

I was the one to mention a vegan refusnik. He is vegan for his own reasons, and believes them with or without the existence of the Vegan Society.

I'm trying to think of a parallel situation, but struggling to come up with one. Maybe it's like if the Kennel Club said it's ok to vaccinate dogs? You can still be a dog lover/owner whether or not you take their advice, and would make up your own mind based on factors other than their permission.

As I said, I'm not supporting his position, but I do think that he has the right to hold it, regardless of a statement from the VS.

cupcake1

My 18 year old GD has been contacted by her doctor and she’s getting hers next week. She’s got no underlying health problems either.

that's very impressive!

I know a lot of the older generation who have refused the vaccine so it is not just a younger generation thing, all age groups have those who just don't bother or have reasons varying from cultural, religious or science (i.e. not sure of the contents of the vaccine, therefore don't want to have it ingested into their system via a needle). All this could be considered self-interest that they would rather not and live in the knowledge that enough other people will be vaccinated in the country to protect them. Given the variants of the virus it is a bit of a Russian roulette attitude.

My 18 year old GD has been contacted by her doctor and she’s getting hers next week. She’s got no underlying health problems either.

I bet she was SuRu!
I should imagine she was very concerned. Pregnancy is a worrying time without thinking about how a vaccination may affect her and the baby.
Congratulations by the way!

I think the title is wrong I don’t think the young in general are reluctant well not in my circles anyway They are now being called up when they get extra supplies and all the ones in my grandkids circle are happily going with it

Oopsadaisy1

It’s difficult, if it does in fact cause infertility as some have suggested we won’t know for sure for a long time, so there is no way to persuade the young people that it will all be ok.
I’m not sure what my GD will do when she is offered it, she has a heart problem, so if she catches Covid she could be very badly affected, or not, who knows ?

It is a shame that people don’t just Google this, instead of relying on unproven facts from friends or social media. It is easily found,
www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n509

Yesterday my son who is 32 went for his vaccination. He had been invited to do so and subsequently booked his appointment online. He was unable to book a second appointment as the website would not allow him to do so. He went to the vaccination centre but was refused a vaccination because he hadn’t got a second appointment booked. He has now booked another appointment on Wednesday at a different centre but again has been unable to book a second appointment. He rang 119 to explain what is happening but they just referred him to the website. So how can he get vaccinated, in the event he will be refused a vaccination on Wednesday, if he is unable to book second appointment? Are other younger people wanting a vaccination experiencing this problem?

My DD who is in her 20s desperately wants the vaccine as she works with children.
I had both mine, they both made me ill so I won't be getting any booster.

Still believe the Covid vaccine should be compulsory for all over 16 year olds. Like many hear are fed up with the the anti vaccine idiots.

Wonder how many of the anti vaccine group have had Covid or had close relatives or friends who have. Bet it's none.

My daughter,son in law and 2 grandson's had it took them 2 weeks to feel better and they are in their late 30's My brother and sister in law with them it was a close call but managed to stay at home took them 6 weeks to recover late 50's and early 60's My cousin early 50's ,daughter early 30's and grandson all had it. All the adults have been vaccinated and glad to . As they don't want to go through the hell of having Covid again. The children are all to young.

Anti vaccine lot think they are so superior and that they are free thinkers. They aren't they just believe any old rubbish written about the vaccine. Think they will soon change their minds if they caught Covid.

We are lucky in this country to be able to get the vaccine. People in countries that are finding it hard to get must think the anti vaccine lot are mad.

But there is no changing people's views until they get it or someone they love gets seriously ill with it. Then they will be glad to have the vaccine .