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Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

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Santana Tue 25-May-21 16:01:24

I asked the 19 year old washing my hair at the hairdresser's whether she would have the vaccine when offered. She said although she was reluctant to put something unknown into her body, she guessed she would have to in order to go clubbing or travel.
I agreed that I could see her point, but I expect the vaccines she had as a baby and child could have saved her life.
It must be very difficult for the young to decide.
We did laugh when I said I was going clubbing as I had both my vaccinations!
Won't risk the nose stud or tattoos though. Far to painful.

rosieod1 Sat 29-May-21 20:16:00

Not just the young. I'm 67 now. When it was first put out last year that they were going to get a vaccine I was "no way" It takes so many years to develop a vaccine and I don't believe the but we've been developing it for years b*****t. My son and his girlfriend, both in their 30's are totally against it,my youngest and his wife,in their late 20's are for it. It's all a matter of choice.I choose not,my hub chose yes

earnshaw Sat 29-May-21 19:59:53

why is it difficult for the young to decide what to do , no brainer to me , i did not think twice about having mine, i bet some put a lot worse than that in their bodies

Casdon Sat 29-May-21 19:44:47

Yes, I got those figures from the articles I copied for you NotSpaghetti.

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 19:41:54

It's this that I'm interested in Casdon:

you have a one in about 500 chance of dying of coronavirus at age 50 compared with a better than one in 250, 000 chance of dying from the vaccine

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 19:38:16

Casdon

Here’s the age calculation Not Spaghetti.
www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210126/how-dangerous-is-coronavirus-to-the-middle-aged

I can't find it there, is it the right link Casdon?

Casdon Sat 29-May-21 19:36:46

And here’s the risk related to the vaccine - there are lots of articles, but not one definitive answer amalgamating for all vaccines that I could find, so this is AZ which is the one with the highest number of reported deaths per million.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-56665396

olliebeak Sat 29-May-21 19:35:22

When you think of some of the things that the younger generation condone 'putting into/inside their bodies' - it makes you laugh when they try to use THAT argument against the Covid Vaccine! Especially when there's 'all kinds of stuff' being consumed in the pursuit of fun, beauty, kicks.

C'mon you lot - wake up and see what's gone on around you for the past 18mths!

foxie48 Sat 29-May-21 19:34:30

Biscuitmuncher

When the vaccine first came out, it was to protect the vulnerable. Now they are pumping it into everyone! Young people who are more at risk to the vaccine than they are to covid

I'm afraid that is not true. The problem with having unvaccinated people is that even if they don't become very ill they allow the virus to mutate. It is possible that we may get a variant that is able to infect vaccinated people and also be dangerous to younger people. If this happens, then we are back to the beginning with a potentially more lethal virus. ATM the best reason for younger people being vaccinated is to prevent this happening. TBH I have not seen any evidence that younger people are more at risk of the vaccine than they are of Covid but I'd be interested to see your evidence. As I said in an earlier post, my doctor daughter has seen many younger patients with Covid die but she has seen no-one die as a result of the vaccination because it is thankfully, very rare.

Thisismyname1953 Sat 29-May-21 19:30:51

Why do people think this vaccine in particular would cause fertility problems? None of the other vaccines that we all had as children caused infertility, so why this one ?
Surely it’s made with the same ‘base’ as lots of other vaccines just tweaked for covid .

Greciangirl Sat 29-May-21 19:30:13

My forty year old daughter didn’t seem to be in any hurry to get hers.
I nagged her and she had it last week.
I also can’t understand the reticence.

I think it’s mainly ignorance.

Casdon Sat 29-May-21 19:29:49

Here’s the age calculation Not Spaghetti.
www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210126/how-dangerous-is-coronavirus-to-the-middle-aged

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 19:24:04

Where are these statistics from please Casdon?

maddyone Sat 29-May-21 19:19:36

What is the evidence for that Biscuitmuncher?

Biscuitmuncher Sat 29-May-21 19:11:19

When the vaccine first came out, it was to protect the vulnerable. Now they are pumping it into everyone! Young people who are more at risk to the vaccine than they are to covid

Casdon Sat 29-May-21 18:50:39

As long as you realise you have a one in about 500 chance of dying of coronavirus at age 50 compared with a better than one in 250, 000 chance of dying from the vaccine, Imavinhoops73, it’s your choice. Most of us aren’t prepared to take the risk, particularly as it’s not just the risk of death, it’s the risk of long term complications from the disease.

Maggiemaybe Sat 29-May-21 18:43:21

I wish there was a like button, foxie48. Well said.

Imavinhoops73 Sat 29-May-21 18:35:38

Anniecupcake18
So sorry for your loss

I 've refused the vaccine and I'm nearly 50.
My perfectly healthy mum developed a blood clot within 3 days of having the A Z. She's lucky to have survived.

foxie48 Sat 29-May-21 18:35:11

Unfortunately there are people who don't seem to understand the concept of risk. Pretty much everything we do, every day of our lives has an element of risk. Last year one of my friends who was in her early 50's fell down the stairs and died. It was a tragedy but I still use the stairs. Several people I know have died following riding accidents but I still ride. I've also known people who have died in car accidents but I still drive and am driven by other people. Read the blurb that comes with any medicine and there will always be the rare chance of a very serious side effect. This is the same for Covid vaccinations, the AZ vaccine carries a very small risk of blood clots but it is far less than the risk carried by Covid 19.

kjmpde Sat 29-May-21 18:18:25

the government gives out warnings about the possibility of blood clots with the AZ vaccine so I can understand the reluctance as how do they know if the others are safe for their age group?

ChrisConary Sat 29-May-21 17:54:28

My Kids, in their early 30's have been vaccinated. It is their father and I who are reluctant. We plan to wait until the vaccines are no longer experimental, until they have 2 to 4 years of data on the outcome. I have had vaccines for many things, having travelled far. I am not an anti-vaxxer. On the other hand, I have never had vaccines for measles, mumps, reubella or chicken pox. I had those viruses and have lifetime immunity. I see no point in taking a vaccine for a virus to which I may already have immunity.

songstress60 Sat 29-May-21 17:49:36

If you are a health worker you should be MADE to have the vaccine. It is the only way to get back to normal. With the Indian variant it looks like we are going to have another lockdown which is bad for the economy.

icanhandthemback Sat 29-May-21 17:45:27

People should be able to make up their own minds about the vaccine. Personally, I have had my 2 doses and I will be advising my adult kids to do the same. My daughter has just had the Moderna vaccine, my son has had the AZ and my older 2 sons had the Pfizer. Apart from feeling a bit rough for a few days, we have all survived and feel better for it.
If it turns out that the efficacy is not so good if there isn't a high enough take up, then I would want there to be controls in place so that the majority of the populations were protected. However, I don't want there to be an us and them situation if there doesn't need to be. With the MMR, I was very worried about the supposed link with Autism so my only child who was supposed to be vaccinated at a very young age, was held back until he was nearing secondary school age. He had lots of intolerances and it seemed to be a sensible thing to do at the time. I would not have liked to be forced to have my son vaccinated. As there has turned out to be a higher incidence of autism in our family than we realised, I am glad I made that decision otherwise I would never have known what had caused it had my son turned out to be ASD too.

Alioop Sat 29-May-21 16:53:08

Anniecupcake18 flowersflowers

HillyN Sat 29-May-21 16:40:43

Naughtynanny, as I explained, I have done my research through a reliable source, NOT social media. You, on the other hand, seem not to understand the mathematics of statistics and probability, yet alone what the word vaccine means. If I were you I would leave it to the experts to ensure our safety.
Of course you have the right to choose not to have the vaccine but I would be more ashamed of congregating en masse with a million unmasked superspreaders than encouraging my children and grandchildren to get vaccinated.

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 16:15:57

Nannan2, Bluecat and others anti-vaxers" is a very negative term in today's society.

I don't think it's necessarily applicable to people refusing just the Covid vaccine. Surely you have to be anti-vaccination in general really to be called this at all? It's still not very nice.

I am personally of the opinion we are better off having this vaccine but I am also pro choice. People are free to choose in this country so we should respect that, even if it seems misguided to others.