Zero deaths!

Well done, it is good to have good news.

lemongrove

If you live in China or Russia sodapop then yes, go ahead and be cynical.

Or even France lemongrove

sodapop

Zero 'reported' deaths - cynical moi

We know the reporting is slow at the weekends and no doubt will be on a bank holiday too so I find the best thing to watch is the trend. Having said that this is not the end by any means and people do have to stop stamping their feet like small children because we have to wait a bit longer. If we have to take the next bit a bit slower while we start making sure other countries are getting the vaccines then we have to work with it - as does the government. I certainly don't want to see us go through another wave.

Unfortunately, 12 new deaths have been reported today (11 in England and 1 in Scotland). That's an increase on the 9 reported last Wednesday.

4,330 new cases have been reported (an increase on 3,180 since last Wednesday).

It's good that the numbers are so low, but it's not over just yet. Let's hope the increased cases don't translate into hospitalisations or deaths.

Nearly half of English cases are in 10-29 year olds, the majority of whom have not been vaccinated. Even though most of them will not have bad symptoms, a few will and they can still transmit infection.

Some places still have high incidence rates too:

Blackburn - 442/100,000
Bolton - 379/100,000
Burnley - 160/100,000
Bury - 152/100,000
Chorley - 112/100,000
Hyndburn - 212/100,000
Manchester - 153/100,000
Preston - 150/100,000
Ribble Valley - 151/100,000
Rossendale - 299/100,000
Salford - 152/100,000
South Ribble - 143/100,000
Stockport - 108/100,000
Bedford - 146/100,000
Kirklees - 113/100,000
Dundee - 110/100,000
Edinburgh - 115/100,000
East Renfrewshire -171/100,000
Glasgow - 132/100,000
Renfrewshire - 142/100,000
South Ayrshire - 135/100,000

The above rates are higher than they have ever been in some areas.

Growstuff that puts it in perspective. I was fretting as we have just gone back over 10/100,000.

Thanks Growstuff. I think the number of deaths reported today probably means those of us who, while welcoming the downward curve on deaths, did expect yesterday's zero reported deaths to be more about the Bank Holiday than the actual numbers.

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Reported spiceagent11 Wed 02-Jun-21 18:25:50

Yes a sober reminder growstuff that we’re not there yet, but we are still in a better place than this time last year, and it was so good to see our grandchildren today. Yes a big thank you to all who worked so hard during the pandemic.

I hope we are not in a rush to open up if infections are still rising, for the sake of waiting a few weeks longer. The economy can only thrive if the community is healthy.

I don't think we should underestimate the zero reported deaths yesterday. This is the first time since the start of the pandemic that no deaths were reported; clearly it was as a result of it being a Bank Holiday, but we've had several bank holidays in the last year and the reported death toll was never zero. On Christmas Day it was 613. On Easter Sunday it was 10.

Its not the end but it is important to recognise our progress. Its a psychological thing, that highlights how far we've come. Its not irresponsible to think about how much better things are now that they were even a few weeks ago, and we need to celebrate the positives or we'll all go mad.

Sorry, but I'd go even more mad, if people start relaxing too soon and act as though there is no risk.

Yes, the country is in a better situation than it was this time last year, but hopefully everybody now understands what exponential growth looks like.

It's a psychological thing, that highlights how far we'vecome.
Good comment Alegrias.

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

Alegrias1

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

We should engage our brains and understand facts too!

I'm actually a tad fed up with dopey pseudo-psychology.

I hope you don't mean that I engage in that kind of thing growstuff.

What I'm fed up with is the constant "yes, but...."

About half of the areas in Scotland will move to level 1 or 0 at the weekend. The headlines in the papers this morning? "Half of Scotland in lockdown limbo; country left in confusion as easing is paused."

It's good news; half the areas are moving forward, the others have to wait a while. But no, doom, gloom and despondency is the order of the day.

I understand facts fine, but constant harping on about how it can all go wrong is not good. Realism isn't the same as pessimism and there is far too much pessimism about.

I can only agree withgrowstuff's general comment on the current trend to pseudo-psychology and the idea that we have all suddenly become knowledgable about "mental health". Having lived for many years with someone with severe mental health issues much of what is being brought out as such really isn't.

It would be far better, in my opinion, to discuss how to build resilience in ourselves. Life throws us curve balls. For many of us, this has not been the easiest situation we have had to deal with but we can if we are resilient. Telling people they have mental health issues is not helpful in my opinion.

Alegrias1

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

That is one opinion. It is not everyone's opinion.

12 deaths----up-dated 2nd June @ 19.43

I wonder how old they were and which variant?

That is the big risk now I think. Children seem to be catching it and suffering in some cases long term effects. We can’t ignore this because most are not badly affected. The sooner they get vaccinated the better.

PippaZ

Alegrias1

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

That is one opinion. It is not everyone's opinion.

Really PippaZ? You think we shouldn't celebrate good news?

Well we'll have to disagree on that one.

Thank you, Lin52.