Do you have friends who have declined to be vaccinated.........h ow do you deal with this (stay polite!)

Two of my friends husbands won't get it. Their wives have tried and tried to change their minds, but they aren't shifting. They got their flu jabs, but not the Covid ones so I really don't understand them at all. Other than those two eejits, everyone else I know is jabbed and luckily twice.

Yes I know quite a few families who aren’t, but I respect their choice there are some that are unable to have the vaccine, everyone has a choice in life,

Imagine how ill you’d feel if you got Covid, a few days of mild flu like symptoms, that I have experienced, is nothing compared to possible death. It’s no different to having the flu jab

Oh yes. She's inba highly vulnerable group too. She believes every bit of nonsense on twitter, that's posted by loonies. Even when one bit of nonsense contradicts another bit of nonsense, she manages to believe them both. Some of the conspiracy stuff she spouts about the vaccines is so absurd I wonder if she's truly lost her mind. I can barely tolerate it.

Not friends per se but neighbours. The thing is they are all nurses and members of the BAME community.

In my opinion, if doctors and nurses are expected to have hepatitis vaccinations then surely they should be expected to have this vaccine

If nurses are refusing, then other people do and end up in hospital, how on earth can we expect to eradicate this?

Yes greenlady I noticed as soon as I posted. I couldn’t be bothered to do a third correction

I respect their right to choose, but at the moment I’d have to avoid their company. I’m not aware of anybody amongst my family and friends who refuses the vaccine.

I have no friends who are unvaccinated (or have different political views) so consider myself very lucky. Family - extended not immediate- that's a different matter!

General chat with friend, have you booked yourselves in for the vaccine - no we arent having it. I was completely shocked but didnt say another word about it, nothing to do with me but still shocked....

All the vaccines for covid 19 give remarkably high levels of protection and those who refuse to be vaccinated should be aware that their chance of getting blood clots is much higher if they are not vaccinated. to say nothing of their chances of becoming seriously ill or dying.

I totally agree with you LuckyGirl. I know we have the choice, but by some people not getting the vaccination they are taking away the choice of life of others that they might infect.

Yes, I have one friend who refuses because she says there’s not sufficient evidence that it works and is safe.

My friend has refused it but apart from me telling her I had my vaccine we don't discuss it. She posts such rubbish on FB about all sorts of conspiracy theories and half her family no longer speak to her because of this.
She's not like this in RL she's a really nice person very down to earth, kind and generous but I do wonder what goes on really in her mind to believe and promote so many nonsensical theories.
I find if you don't talk about it the friendship can continue unharmed so that's what I do.
It wouldn't do for us all to be the same

There's an interesting piece by a professor of risk in today's Spectator. He says that the increased transmissibility of the delta - Indian - variant (about twice as infectious as the original) means that by this autumn we will be in a position where EVERYONE who hasn't had the vaccine will have had the disease.

I'm jolly glad I've had both of my jabs, even though I was quite ill for 24 hours after the first.

No vaccine for any disease gives 100% immunity.

grandtanteJE65

I know two women of my own age, late sixties) who refuse the vaccination.

The one on the grounds that she is never ill, and all the tests she has had done for Covid 19 have proved negative.

The other on the grounds that we do not know exactly what the vaccine will do to our bodies.

The first time we discussed the vaccination, I pointed out to the first woman that the fact that she has not yet contracted covid 19 does not mean that she never will.

To the second I said that she has a point, but that we do know what the virus is capable of doing to our bodies, so I personally prefer to be vaccinated.

I have no intention of discussing it further with either person, as I respect their right to make their own choice.

However, I reserve the right not to invite either woman if I have or expect other visitors. I do not feel I have the right to expose visitors to unvaccinated co-guests.

The first small-pox vaccines used live vira - so they were potentially more dangerous than modern vaccines and most of our generation remember that some children were said to have become mentally handicapped after being given the triple vaccine against whooping-cough, diptheria and tetanus in the 1970s. I no longer remember whether there was found to be a connection or not, but these kinds of rumours may well be behind the fear of new vaccines.

no connection at all grantanje and the bloke who was struck off for alleging that there was is now in the US spearheading the antivaxxers over there.

I understand that you can still get covid when vaccinated and still spread it. It is not a conventional vaccine. It stops the more serious complications. Do to my mind that is a personal choice. It doesn't eradicate the virus...am I right any medical person on here?

olliebeak

My daughter and her b/friend are both Anti-Vaxxers - well HE is and she just goes along with whatever he says.

They've been on demonstrations all over South Lancashire and Manchester - which is where the new variant is spreading the fastest - without wearing masks.

Hundreds of their 'friends' all protesting for their 'Right NOT to be vaccinated' ......................... they just 'don't get it!' As far as they're concerned 'It's just the Flu!' and we're all being manipulated by the Government.

I'm absolutely at my wits end with her! She insists that she 'had something that was the flu' in December/January 2019/2020 and that it was what, has since, became known as 'Covid-19'.

I've barely seen her since all this began - due to her working as a Carer ........................... which I find ludicrous. I can't understand how her employers aren't insisting that she should go for vaccination.

under the law...for now....employers can't do this.

I have had both my vaccines, but now I am very worried. About 1 week after my second I started to get fluid aacross my knuckles, then my ankles became very swollen and my legs feel very tight and heavy. There are purple veins appearing around my lower legs. I had to go for a chest xray and have had blood taken for testing, I have to see a
doctor on Friday. I have also now started to have severe cramp in my legs when I am in bed. This is something I have never had before, and didn't even know what it was until my son told me after I told him about it. Please keep your fingers crossed for me.

However there are millions of people who have NOT had any problems with this vaccine, surely it's better than dying, I cannot understand why people would not take this precaution.
Our daughter was uncomfortable for only 12 hours after her first jab, because she has Asthma, but her second jab was fine. I think it's very inconsiderate of you not to save lives, including your own & your families.

I know two women of my own age, late sixties) who refuse the vaccination.

The one on the grounds that she is never ill, and all the tests she has had done for Covid 19 have proved negative.

The other on the grounds that we do not know exactly what the vaccine will do to our bodies.

The first time we discussed the vaccination, I pointed out to the first woman that the fact that she has not yet contracted covid 19 does not mean that she never will.

To the second I said that she has a point, but that we do know what the virus is capable of doing to our bodies, so I personally prefer to be vaccinated.

I have no intention of discussing it further with either person, as I respect their right to make their own choice.

However, I reserve the right not to invite either woman if I have or expect other visitors. I do not feel I have the right to expose visitors to unvaccinated co-guests.

The first small-pox vaccines used live vira - so they were potentially more dangerous than modern vaccines and most of our generation remember that some children were said to have become mentally handicapped after being given the triple vaccine against whooping-cough, diptheria and tetanus in the 1970s. I no longer remember whether there was found to be a connection or not, but these kinds of rumours may well be behind the fear of new vaccines.

maddyone

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I’m being a pendant, but don’t like the mistake. Apologies.

hahahahahah a pedant who mistypes pedant

They would no longer be my friends. My daughter had cancer and was clinically extremely vulnerable. I had to shield too so that when we were allowed bubbles I could support her. The sheer relief of being vaccinated (both of us) and having some freedom at last! We still take care with people we don't know. But if anyone told me they weren't having the jab, well - I am afraid if I didn't walk away ....

It took my son -terrified of needles and always has been and my son in law who doesn't even take paracetamol a while to get their jab, but thankfully they have now both had the first dose. I've just had my 2nd jab and apart from a bit of tenderness at the injection site had no side effects. both my husband and daughter are suffering from long covid. When I think about those poor souls who have died gasping for breath it makes me so annoyed that people object o being vaccinated.

Of course it is anyone’s decision whether to be vaccinated, but an intelligent and socially aware individual would ensure their decision was informed. The side effects are undoubtedly real- my 3 daughters and I felt rough for a couple of days. When one weighs this against the possibility of a miserable, drawn out death in an over-worked NHS hospital, not to mention remaining unvaccinated means you are an automatic vector helpfully spreading the virus- one wonders what kind of decision - making process your friends have undertaken . I would not spend any time with anyone who had chosen not to be vaccinated simply because I would be placed in danger. The vaccination does not prevent contraction , it means you are likely to suffer far milder symptoms .

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