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Why are the young reluctant to take the vaccine?

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MawBe Sat 10-Jul-21 11:05:06

In today’s Times
While more than 95 per cent of the over-50s have been vaccinated, the rate is 76 per cent in those aged 30-34 and is now plateauing. So far 58 per cent of those aged 18 to 24 have had a first jab.

Unvaccinated young people are believed to be behind a rise in cases. One in 160 people in England were thought to have the coronavirus after a 58 per cent rise over seven days, according to the Office for National Statistics. It estimates that 332,900 people had the virus in the week ending July 3, similar to levels in mid-October, with cases more than ten times higher in those aged 16-24 than the over-70s

So why the apparent reluctance? Are they complacent? Or perhaps they associate it with us old dears (remember the misguided and unfortunate “Don’t Kill Your Granny” campaign?
Perhaps they feel secure, believing they won’t get it seriously or that they somehow are immune.
Or are they less aware of the benefits of vaccination despite benefiting from immunisation more that any previous generation?
Whatever it is, this needs to be addressed to protect everybody

M0nica Thu 15-Jul-21 15:01:59

Just one person not having a period is just that. it does not mean it had anything to do with the vaccine.

Other people have said they have had heavy periods, again, no evidence that it had anything to do with the vaccine. With so many millions of women under 50 being vaccinated, the vaccination is bound to coincide with the start of changes in some women's menstrual cycle, as well as some men first noticing prostate problems, other people catching influenza and Waitrose running out of kitchen towel.

jaylucy Thu 15-Jul-21 12:48:10

Before pointing fingers at age groups, you should mention those of any age that have not had or refuse to be vaccinated.
We also have to remember that due to anyone under 40 being given the Pfizer rather than AZ, means there are fewer venues that result in delays for the younger age groups being able to be vaccinated.
If the figures tell the same story in 6 months time, then it is truly cause for concern.

Rosycheeks Thu 15-Jul-21 12:41:56

Never heard that before GreyKnitter.Come to think of it neither have I but im 66. Dont think its the vacs thoughhmm

GreyKnitter Thu 15-Jul-21 12:16:02

I have a friend whose young granddaughter and her partner won’t have the vaccine as they believe it has not yet been tested enough and they are concerned about fertility issues as someone they know and her sisters haven’t had a period since they had their vaccine. Ps. Neither have I but then I’m in my late 60’s!!

Mamie Thu 15-Jul-21 11:59:21

They are all on holiday anyway Ellianne. ? The old tradition of holidays in July or August seems to have broken down a bit in favour of 14 juillet to 15 août.

Ellianne Thu 15-Jul-21 09:59:31

grin Mamie shame the 14th was a Wednesday this year, they can't faire le pont into next week!

Mamie Thu 15-Jul-21 09:56:21

An example of said bar owner has already been on the lunchtime news Ellianne. ?
We have just been to our local mini Carrefour and the (male) assistants were having a very lively discussion as they loaded the shelves. Mind you, it is the 15th July so very much the morning after the night before....

OnwardandUpward Thu 15-Jul-21 08:32:47

grin yes rural France is like another France...

Ellianne Thu 15-Jul-21 08:26:48

Chapeau bas to the French gouvernement. This really is a shining example of how France aggressively attacks something needing to be done in a hurry. Even down to pop up vaccination centres in summer tourist resorts. I like the way the government website refers to it "as the precious vaccine" making their country folk feel like they are privileged to receive it.

I did have a slight chuckle though wondering whether every bar owner in deep rural France was really going to ask for proof when his regular farmers stumbled into his establishment wanting a drink!

Mamie Thu 15-Jul-21 06:04:16

It will, of course, have to include people in all establishments requiring the vaccination certificate for entry, so bar staff, staff in shopping centres, cinemas etc would automatically be required to have their own certificate.

Mamie Thu 15-Jul-21 05:59:28

The health minister said teachers are not included because they are not in contact with vulnerable people. I believe about 75% are already vaccinated.
I have also read that compulsory vaccination could be extended to everyone in a public facing role, but no detail on that at the moment.

OnwardandUpward Thu 15-Jul-21 00:19:25

Interesting reading about France, thanks. I think it's fair that health workers have to have the jab but I wonder what about shop workers and teachers who are in contact with so many people?

M0nica Wed 14-Jul-21 22:14:22

Mincub Your post was fascinating. Can you give me the links to your sources for this information? Proper reputable sites that discuss the evidence please, not social media, influencers and conspiracy sites, although your information sounds so clear that I doubt you use those kinds of sites.

hugshelp Wed 14-Jul-21 17:02:43

My first jab was delayed as I was too poorly. I was constantly getting phone calls to ask if I was ready yet until I did get it yet.

I I haven't had my second dose yet so rang the GPs to check about it only to be told they've stopped offering them there now. It's two bus rides to where I now have to go and I'm sight-impaired. I can get someone to take me and will book there but there's definitely no rush from the provision side now.

Mamie Wed 14-Jul-21 16:58:20

Yes very effective policy making. Whatever people think of Macron (and he is far from perfect), he does a good clear address to the nation. Castex does the detail and Veran the Health Minister, who is also a doctor (neurologue), has a firm grasp on the issues.
The other factor is that all health workers already have four compulsory jabs and no child can start school without the required immunisation.
No problem with showing the Covid pass because legally everyone must carry an ID card.
Context is everything n'est-ce pas?

Ellianne Wed 14-Jul-21 16:31:59

You and I had this same conversation several months ago Mamie, .... le lièvre et la tortue.
A good example of how to get things done when it is needed.

Mamie Wed 14-Jul-21 15:32:49

Absolutely that Ellianne. Apparently 80% under 40 and as many sign-ups as in the previous 17 days. It will all be Pfizer and a gap of 3-6 weeks so if they move very fast.....
The DoctoLib site has held up well and there are "centres de vaccinations éphémères" all over the place.

Ellianne Wed 14-Jul-21 15:20:53

20,000 bookings a minute for the vaccine in France.
Brilliant! I can just hear the conversations, "Quoi? I can't go out for a meal without having the jab? Get me signed up."

flaxwoven Wed 14-Jul-21 15:05:44

Young people don't remember the times of TB, Diphtheria, measles, Polio etc. before vaccines. My mother was a nurse in Cuddington isolation hospital near Banstead during the war and lots of children came in with Diphtheria and some died. Young people may think they will only get a mild version of the virus. There may also be a lot of false information on social media.

Mamie Wed 14-Jul-21 14:33:28

On Monday at 8pm President Macron adressed the nation. Covid cases are rising, especially in the young, as the Delta variant takes hold. Vaccinations are available to everyone over 12.
He announced that all health and care workers must be vaccinated by mid September or lose their jobs.
By the end of August bars, restaurants, cinemas, theatres, museums, shopping centres and other public venues will demand a vaccine pass or a negative test before entry. Tests for reasons other than health will be charged for.
By midnight 900,000 people, the vast majority young, had booked appointments.
By this morning the figure was 2.25 million.
800,000 vaccinations were given yesterday.
The approval rating for the policy is almost 70%.

Mincub Wed 14-Jul-21 13:53:53

This is part of a conversation I had with my friend recently ‘
The Corona patents from 2002 onwards have been exposed...in public domain, But they have pretended Covid is novel even though Pfizer created a canine vaccine in 2008, this is all down to Gates-funded pro Monsanto and GMOs home of the notorious Neil Ferguson Gates and Co, no vaccine for me!’
That logic is Beyond me!!!

OnwardandUpward Mon 12-Jul-21 14:14:04

Baggs thanks for sharing. That makes sense and yes as an older person we are also more likely to struggle with covid. Having said that I think some young people have died from covid?

winterwhite Mon 12-Jul-21 12:36:12

Round here we seem to now have only one large jab centre, on the edge of town with an infrequent bus service. And both my eligible 19 & 21 yr-old GCs reported long waits for appointments that they could get to on foot. The early pics of queues winding round the block may have been people who lived close to the centre.

growstuff Mon 12-Jul-21 12:12:37

I can't read Bagg's article. I must have had my free monthly Speccy article.

NotSpaghetti Mon 12-Jul-21 12:02:56

Please read Baggs's info up above.
It explains quite a lot.