Booster vaccination

You used the ‘s’ word ….

PS I'm in Scotland!

I've just come back from a shambles of a vaccination centre. Huge place, lots of booths but very few vaccinators! Turned up for our appointment and told there would be a minimum two hour queue. Staff were very nice and very apologetic but had been badly let down by the organisers. I was lucky in that DH organised a wheelchair for me otherwise I'd have had to leave.

Probably.

I haven't actually received a letter (I'm im England) so I think this must be a booster?

humptydumpty

So I am 70 and not immunocompromised. I have just booked a third jab. I assume this is not a booster?

I believe, if you are in England, you would have had letter stating you are immunocompromised and need third PRIMARY vaccine, which is different from a booster.
In Scotland, months ago, we received a letter stating that we were coded immunocompromised on our Community Health Index. That was all. Nothing since.

So I am 70 and not immunocompromised. I have just booked a third jab. I assume this is not a booster?

Thank you Marydoll
I think that’s the vaccine which in some cases is taking longer to be administered than the booster.

Oh well, as long as most people in Scotland are OK, why are some of us making such a fuss?

Could it be that some of the most vulnerable members of society have been badly let down and little is being done to support us.

It would be interesting to read if attitudes would change, if some posters on here or a family member, found themselves in the same position as the immunocompromised, who are having difficulty accessing the vaccine.
I bet you would be complaining very loudly!

Count your blessings that you are not in that position.

I am in Manchester. At my local pharmacy round the corner I popped in on the off chance to see if I could book an appointment with them for the booster. My 6 months were up on Tuesday. "We can do it now if you wait a few minutes " they said. Couple of minutes later my sleeve was rolled up and it was done. A couple of people had come in after me. Really efficient.

But if even some people are having problems accessing their vaccines, it is an indication that the programme isn't going as well as it should.

Not going as well as it should is a long way from its a shambles. Does everything have to be so extreme?

Alegrias1

^Alegrias’s assertion that everyone she know has had boosters with no problem (for which I’m very pleased, of course) is also a warning signal. It’s a denial that there are problems, again an alarm being sounded.^

No, its not, its a statement of fact. Nobody's denying the state of the NHS. Underfunded, overstretched and probably mismanaged. But saying something's a shambles when its not? Adding to the voices suggesting that the vaccine rollout isn't going well? Well, I don't believe, from personal experience, that this is the case. Your personal experience might be different. They are both equally valid.

But if even some people are having problems accessing their vaccines, it is an indication that the programme isn't going as well as it should.

Alegrias1

*MayBee70*.

I'm having a go at nobody. I've said that I don't doubt that Marydoll or SueDonim's family have had problems. I've said that everybody's experience is equally valid.

Perhaps if you feel the need to monitor the thread you could tell people to stop telling me I'm in denial just for giving my side of the story?

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Those with weakened immune systems are being offered a THIRD primary COVID-19 vaccination instead of just two doses.

The third vaccination is NOT the same as a booster.

It is a top up because while the first two doses will have offered some protection, they may not have generated a full immune response as they do in those who do not have weakened immune systems.

The source is Swansea University. The Scottish and Welsh NHS sights have this information. I'm using my phone( which is difficult for me) so trying to keep it brief.

Good news. There is a new drug called Molnupiravir that will treat symptomatic coronavirus if taken within 5 days. It is in pill form, to be taken twice a day, and interferes with an enzyme in the virus so it cannot reproduce itself in the body. It will be used to treat the vulnerable. Marydoll and others I hope this is going to help you and offer some reassurance.

MayBee70.

I'm having a go at nobody. I've said that I don't doubt that Marydoll or SueDonim's family have had problems. I've said that everybody's experience is equally valid.

Perhaps if you feel the need to monitor the thread you could tell people to stop telling me I'm in denial just for giving my side of the story?

Alegrias. Please back off. Marydoll has enough health problems without out you having a go at her about petty things.

Alegrias’s assertion that everyone she know has had boosters with no problem (for which I’m very pleased, of course) is also a warning signal. It’s a denial that there are problems, again an alarm being sounded.

No, its not, its a statement of fact. Nobody's denying the state of the NHS. Underfunded, overstretched and probably mismanaged. But saying something's a shambles when its not? Adding to the voices suggesting that the vaccine rollout isn't going well? Well, I don't believe, from personal experience, that this is the case. Your personal experience might be different. They are both equally valid.

There is difference, JEccles otherwise we would be getting a booster, not a third primary dose, followed by at least one booster.

Is there a difference in strength between the primary third vaccine for the immunosuppressed and the booster?
I ask because it appears those with compromised immune systems have been told not to have the booster instead of the third primary vaccine.

Maybe though it’s just to avoid confusion as some people will require four vaccine doses rather than the three which the majority will have.

Mary doll. After DrJohns blog last night a Q&A popped up on utube with two American doctors.. people were firing questions at them left right and centre and their knowledge was incredible. Many of the callers were immune suppressed etc and were asking which was the best vaccine to have, what time scale to have them etc. I tried to remember your query as I didn’t want to move away from the blog for fear of not finding it again. He did say that nothing was certain and that they were just feeling their way through the best way to vaccinate people. His name was DrDaniel Griffin. I was too tired to listen to all of it but might listen to it again today. Of course it was more about how they’re doing things in America but it still applies to here. People with various illnesses syndromes etc were phoning in, people that had had adverse reactions to their previous vaccine. I’ll try to do a link with my upstairs computer if I can.

My son’s career involves a background in hospital and patient safety, in he has been working for more than fifteen years. The issues that people such as myself and Marydoll are highlighting are actually red flag problems that something more serious lies in wait down the line unless action is taken now.

Alegrias’s assertion that everyone she know has had boosters with no problem (for which I’m very pleased, of course) is also a warning signal. It’s a denial that there are problems, again an alarm being sounded.

I do respect your views Marydoll and I'm not in any way suggesting that you haven't had problems. This is not meant to be a criticism of you in any way.

There is a lot of criticism of the vaccine program around just now and we seem to have forgotten what a massive undertaking this is. And, sorry to bring this up again, how blooming lucky we are to have a vaccine at all. There are going to be issues with it. But I'm happy with how its going.

We will just beg to differ, Alegrias. You are entitled to your views, as I am mine.

By the way, thanks for the definition. However, I do not need a lesson in English language. I have a Master's degree in English Language and Literature. In my opinion, I have used the word appropriately, as that is my perception.

I am asking you to respect my views and try to understand what it is like to experience this. As I said, unless you have experienced this personally, you are not qualified to dismiss my views, nor opinion..
I do not intend to engage with you further. it's a complete waste of my time and yours.

Actually - two are immunocompromised, I just thought of another one.