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Christmas party at Downing Street last year

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varian Fri 03-Dec-21 11:31:35

Families who lost loved ones during the pandemic have said they are "sickened" by a No 10 Christmas party held during last year's Covid restrictions.

The party took place on 18 December, with a source telling the BBC "several dozen" people attended.

But the Covid restrictions operating at the time banned such events.

Boris Johnson - who was not at the party - said no Covid rules were broken, but No 10 has refused to explain how party-goers complied.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59505975

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 16:57:26

Sorry this is Twitter, but its excellent a worth watching. But in case you can't watch it:

16th December: Tier 3 for London, no gatherings that are primarily a social activity.

18th December: No 10 had a gathering that was primarily a social activity.

twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1466494479142113282

They despise us. That's it.

lemongrove Fri 03-Dec-21 16:58:23

Actually Casdon your own post made me smile, as most left wing posters on here and on other politics pages were Corbyn supporters at least until the last GE. He was then dropped like a hot potato by everyone for losing so badly.Now they seek to constantly distance themselves from him.

GillT57 Fri 03-Dec-21 16:59:38

GagaJo

It isn't about point scoring. It is about a rule. Set by government. Broken by government.

Exactly.

Casdon Fri 03-Dec-21 17:03:02

This is the report from the Government website for 17th December for London.

‘Tier 3 (Very High)

Since the end of national restrictions, the situation in London has deteriorated. Case rates in all ages are greater than 200 per 100,000 in 18 of the 33 local authorities. Case rates in all ages are also continuing to increase across 32 of the 33 London local authorities; the case rate is increasing by 30% or more over the last 7 days in 24 London boroughs. Case rates in those aged 60 and over are above 100 per 100,000 in 27 of the 33 local authorities and are increasing in the majority of boroughs. Positivity has increased across the majority of boroughs. The epidemiological picture continues to deteriorate especially in the most recent incomplete data (that is subject to upwards revision). The overall case rate is increasing exponentially in London.

The rate of increase of the epidemiology indicators is concerning and under emergency measures taken this week warranted immediate allocation to Tier 3 of the 32 London Boroughs and the City of London. The epidemiological indicators in London continue to deteriorate and the whole of London should remain at Tier 3.

The number of daily COVID hospital admissions continues to rise in London.’

There’s no getting away from the fact that it was downright irresponsible. The information I included in my last post about the restrictions for tier 3 was also from the Government’s own website. There’s nothing gleeful about this at all, I think appalled best sums up how most people feel.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:03:12

Wasn't somebody told off yesterday for bringing Brexit into a thread about Johnson?

But now we've got a former Labour leader in a thread about No 10 breaking Covid rules when they were telling us to behave.

Focus ladies, focus.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:03:17

I would like to know who attended these parties it has been reported that the PM wasn’t there.

Were the attendees MPs, back room office staff, civil servants or media?

We’re they just drinks, refreshments and a few quizzes after the days work.

The main thing I would be interested to know is why was the story sat on for 12 months than released to coincide with the Bexley & Sidcup bi-election?

Definitely political game playing by someone.

(I am not condoning the parties by the way. I recall that the hard lockdown began on 20/12/2020. It was a family members big 0 birthday, we were all bitterly disappointed.)

theworriedwell Fri 03-Dec-21 17:03:37

lemongrove

Informal gatherings of work colleagues was permitted....it happened every day in large workforces where they weren’t able to work from home after all.
As I said GSM ....it’s just gleeful political point scoring.

Oh yes Johnson's new get out of jail card, It's political. What an idiot he is standing in parliament complaining about politics. I wonder where he thinks he is?

Casdon Fri 03-Dec-21 17:09:33

If it walks like a duck.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59514568

theworriedwell Fri 03-Dec-21 17:10:08

Germanshepherdsmum

I wonder if this thread would have been started if the alleged party had been held by Corbyn? I think I know the answer to that, though it was said in an earlier post that he had held one but nobody jumped on it.
And how ridiculous is it to say that making reference to the huge weddings held during lockdown is being racist? It’s a statement of fact.

If he was PM and he made laws about not doing it and then allowed it to happen at No 10 then yes I think it would.

Wasn't the big rule break from Corbyn (not the person who made the law) that he met some people for a coffee outdoors after a funeral? Not quite the same as a 4 dozen meeting for a boozy party indoors.

His other big crime was opening his front door to his brother who was accompanied by Father Christmas. He didn't appear to let them in. Again 3 people meeting outdoors wasn't allowed but it seems like his brother set him up.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:13:42

Indeed GG, all we have is speculation about the alleged event, no detail. But many on here are more than happy to speculate. I expect a good many people had a Christmas drink or two in the office after work and perhaps livened it up with a quiz.

Casdon Fri 03-Dec-21 17:14:59

Watch the BBC video I just posted Germanshepherdsmum, the details are there,

MissAdventure Fri 03-Dec-21 17:15:44

That's the point though.
We didn't!
What you are saying is pure speculation.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:16:52

Well they were breaking the law too.

Diversions have broken out all over this thread. Corbyn, people having big weddings, next door's cat, it doesn't matter. We expect number 10 to behave within the law and set an example. Or we used to.

Watch the link Casdon posted.

theworriedwell Fri 03-Dec-21 17:17:51

Germanshepherdsmum

Indeed GG, all we have is speculation about the alleged event, no detail. But many on here are more than happy to speculate. I expect a good many people had a Christmas drink or two in the office after work and perhaps livened it up with a quiz.

So are you another one with a very liberal interpretation of the law? Many on here have already said they did not break the rules, I did not break the rules.

Boris Johnson and his govt made the rules but they obviously made them for us and not for them.

It seems many Conservative supporters also feel the laws weren't made for them despite the fact it was the people who they wanted to be the govt made those rules.

Galaxy Fri 03-Dec-21 17:32:21

I didnt GSM and neither did anyone I know, I work with many organisations.

Galaxy Fri 03-Dec-21 17:34:54

But then again I apparently was supporting Corbyn and then dropping him, except I wasnt and if anyone was on the threads about the labour party they would know there were many posters like me. Not sure these generalisations help really.

Kali2 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:40:02

Exactly Galaxy- I have been called extreme left wing many times on here- and I am not, for sure. Ridiculous.

On the other hand if people clearly indicate they support Farage and are prepared to fund him, and think Zemmour is wonderful - I think my guessing is correct.

GagaJo Fri 03-Dec-21 17:40:17

lemongrove

Actually Casdon your own post made me smile, as most left wing posters on here and on other politics pages were Corbyn supporters at least until the last GE. He was then dropped like a hot potato by everyone for losing so badly.Now they seek to constantly distance themselves from him.

Eh? I think he's a decent guy. But he's not Labour leader anymore. I'd bet any left-winger on here would say the same.

That is a very skewed interpretation.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:46:18

Corbyn a decent guy? With his connections to terrorists? Next I’ll hear that McDonnell, still very much in evidence, isn’t a Marxist.

MissAdventure Fri 03-Dec-21 17:47:42

I wouldn't care who was in power.
I would just appreciate if they could follow their own rules.
Not really too much to ask, is it?

Casdon Fri 03-Dec-21 17:49:03

I was telling the truth. I can categorically say I have never been a Corbyn supporter, and have posted a number of times on Gransnet to say that lemongrove (and fallen out with other Labour supporters about it) - in fact anybody who posts regularly on the political threads knows that there are a lot of Labour supporters who, prior to and since he was ousted feel the same as I do, and a number of them are on this thread.

At the end of the day though, that’s nothing at all to do with this thread, it’s just another attempt at diversion, because this thread is about the government.

rosie1959 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:51:28

We managed a Christmas meal before restuarants closed but there are only six of us. One couple were unwell so just four of us but on separate tables.
Hopefully this year all six on one table

GillT57 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:53:49

Agreed Casdon. I too have been accused of being a 'leftie' but have never been a Corbyn supporter. However,being the daft deluded woke leftie that I am I expect the government of the day to follow the rules they set. Silly of me obviously.

Galaxy Fri 03-Dec-21 17:53:54

Yes I remember those threads casdon and you are right.

varian Fri 03-Dec-21 18:19:53

As the OP I can tell you that not only do I support Corbyn, I am not a supporter of the Labour Party.

As a Liberal Democrat, I do belong to the majority of voters at the last general election, who voted against this corrupt Tory party, who still got a "LANDSLIDE" on the basis of a minority of votes.

First Past The Post is only used for electing governments in two European countries - the United Kingdom and Belarus.

All the other countries in Europe are democracies - where a government can only be elected with the support of the majority of electors.

The UK and Belarus are sham democracies.

OK, you can vote, but what difference does that ever make if you live in a safe seat?

Our top priority should be making the UK a democratic country electing its government by a system of proportional representation.