Covid case surge

The link doesn't work LadyWee.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/11/covid-threat-being-ignored-england-ideological-reasons-nhs-leaders

This is actually quite a good article.

It is just political. The uk population don’t want any restrictions so we don’t have any. The Tory government want to show their success at beating Covid. The NHS as always are done in, battle weary, undervalued, underpaid, slagged off in the press, but who cares anymore as everyone else is bored of it! Whether or not we have restrictions etc the fact is now we have an additional illness which puts pressure on the NHS and we have no support from the government to cope with that - no extra beds, no extra staff, nothing. So as long as that is the case everyone suffers in some way. There is only so much work that can be done in a day. Whether they are admitted with it or from it it is not a strong argument to those who cite it - as if someone has Covid alongside whatever else has hospitalised them, likelihood is they are going to need additional care, longer stay etc as battling that as well and likely will
Be sicker.

It’s just such a shame.

Masks are still obligatory until next Monday in Scotland, at least in shops, on public transport and in public places.

My 97yr old DMiL has escaped so far but just yesterday, as I was taking her for her 4th jag, we had a message from her day centre to say it's closed until after Easter as there have been 19 cases reported among those elderly.

DFiL died with covid, in hospital, in Dec 2020. He had underlying health problems and was 95, but the circumstances, without visitors, were terrible.

Surely the vaccine helps to keep the disease milder?

Daisymae

Ailidh

I am concerned. I've continued all precautionary measures. I am on Day 2 of Covid.

Sorry to hear that. I wonder if that's our future, an endless circle of infection. Hope you are soon better.

Thank you.

Day three brings a barbed wire throat but I test my taste buds with marmite toast every morning, and they're still there. (Hope yours come back soon, Blondiescot) ?

I know more people around here who either have it or had have it within the past month than at any time since the whole pandemic started. I'm sitting here absolutely choked full of what feels like a bad cold or flu - and just realising that I can't taste my Marmite toast (!) yet I've just done a test and it was negative.

The other day I was in a shop, when a maskless man leant into my face, ( masks are still required in shops here), I moved away. After he did it twice more, I asked him to stop leaning over me, because I was vulnerable.
He replied, Covid doesn't exist. ??
No wonder it is still spreading, if people think like that.

Ladyleftfieldlover

Well I’m still worried although me and OH have had it. I’m still getting very fatigued. Lots of people are now getting it a second time. What should we do? Thing is, around 8 million people in the UK still haven’t been vaccinated. The government are being extremely foolish in refusing to talk about covid. Yes, masks should still be worn and people should still be encouraged to have the jab. Finally, we haven’t heard from Witty, Valance or Van Tam in a while. I wonder what their feelings are?

Mask restrictions are highly unlikely to be reintroduced especially as other European countries are dropping or reducing their restrictions.
If you are worried I would invest in FFp2 masks
We are not likely to increase our vacinnation rate it's pretty good but those who are not convinced are not likely to change their minds now.

Ladyleftfieldlover

Well I’m still worried although me and OH have had it. I’m still getting very fatigued. Lots of people are now getting it a second time. What should we do? Thing is, around 8 million people in the UK still haven’t been vaccinated. The government are being extremely foolish in refusing to talk about covid. Yes, masks should still be worn and people should still be encouraged to have the jab. Finally, we haven’t heard from Witty, Valance or Van Tam in a while. I wonder what their feelings are?

Yes, it would be useful to hear official advice in the wake of current statistics. However it seems if they don't mention it, it doesn't exist. Friends of my teenage GC have had it twice in the last 6 weeks.

Well I’m still worried although me and OH have had it. I’m still getting very fatigued. Lots of people are now getting it a second time. What should we do? Thing is, around 8 million people in the UK still haven’t been vaccinated. The government are being extremely foolish in refusing to talk about covid. Yes, masks should still be worn and people should still be encouraged to have the jab. Finally, we haven’t heard from Witty, Valance or Van Tam in a while. I wonder what their feelings are?

Thanks for that Volver. I’d forgotten about ONS and an estimate is better than no figures.

For those concerned that we don't know how many cases there are and wondering how we will know if it has peaked.

The ONS survey is carrying on and is probably a more realistic picture of the Covid landscape at any one time, because it is a random sample and not dependent on people volunteering to be tested if they feel ill.

Released every week, on Fridays at noon.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/8april2022

We’re still getting the figures for Wales regularly, so I extracted the information about patients admitted due to Covid as opposed to patients with Covid last week.

‘The NHS also reports figures showing how many people in acute hospitals are actually being treated for Covid as opposed to being in hospital for another condition and contracting it there. As of April 7, some 93 of the 666 Covid patients in acute hospitals were being treated for the condition.’

So here it was between 1 in 6 and 1 in 7 reported Covid patients in hospital who were admitted specifically due to Covid. Hope that’s helpful, it’s no doubt available for England too if you know where to look.

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I am extremely bothered OP. I'm also extremely bothered by the fact that covid is known to attack all the organs in the body and cause interesting effects, such as brain shrinkage and an increased risk of heart attacks.and more.. There is also Long Covid which can leave people incapacitated for 'normal' life for a very long time.

But let's not worry about that shall we. Hospitals are on their knees with staff off sick with covid, and huge backlogs of waiting lists, airlines are cancelling up to 100 flights a day because of staff sickness.. .but the government think it's all over... In fact, our Health minister thinks that we're world leading at beating covid...

I'm not only 'concerned', I'm very angry...

I am more laid back because I have now had covid , as has my partner, my 3 children's and partners and all my grandchildren...we were lucky that it was nothing more than mild cold symptoms...my mum who's 85 mixed with all of us yet never showed any symptoms....she goes about life as normal now I don't think she thinks about it at all ( although she's had her 4 jabs) .....I still wear PPE for patient facing contact at work... but because we don't wear it in the office anymore ...it feels like life is back to normal....our ICUs have very few covid patients now and staff covid levels are significantly reduced...think we've turned a corner in my part of the NW

The elderly chap next to us died of Covid a few weeks ago. He actually caught it in hospital so though he is registered as dying of Covid, he had underlying very bad health issues. We do not seem to get the facts like we were with a daily update.

Our hospital has just reported they have a high leval of Covid positive cases but the majority are there because of something else they just test positive on admittance. They only have one Covid patient in intensive care
What do we do ? Bring back masks do they actually do any good with Omicron

I am also worried by the increase. Put my mask on to go in the small village shop and older man asked if he needs a mask. “Up to you” I replied “but there is a lot of it about and we need to be careful especially when we are older.” Off he went and got his mask.

Then next day I met another older woman in the shop with no mask. She assured me she’d already had Covid at the start and it was only like cold or flu. I pointed out people in the village who were currently very poorly. She was completely unbothered. So what do you do except try to protect yourself - I have a silver coated face mask.

Elizabeth27

That is with Covid, not of Covid.

Who says?

It is extremely worrying. I have just tested negative after ten days. My next door neighbours have had it and a young man across the road - and those are the ones I know about.

Ailidh

I am concerned. I've continued all precautionary measures. I am on Day 2 of Covid.

Sorry to hear that. I wonder if that's our future, an endless circle of infection. Hope you are soon better.

Meanwhile Shanghai in is still in lockdown. Apparently China is still pursuing a zero Covid policy. What do they know that we don't?

I am concerned. I've continued all precautionary measures. I am on Day 2 of Covid.

In school for the pandemic - and I managed to miss it. 4 days in the sunny south and now I’m isolating.
If people aren’t testing I can’t see how we can monitor anything.

A scientist on TV at the end of last week said that most people were going into hospital for something else and were found to have covid not being admitted because of covid.