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Today i hit 16 stone.....talk about depressed....

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bytheway Sat 10-Sept-16 09:39:28

Hi

I have always had a weight problem, i remember my mother taking me to see a doctor when i was quite young about my weight, about 10 years old, he put me on the 'mars bar' diet. 1 fun size treat a day. it never worked. Throughout my teens, twenties and thirties i pretty much starved myself to stay slim. I was 10 stone on my wedding day and thought i looked fat! Fast forward to my 40s and i had severe depression and comfort ate (i am now on meds for this but still comfort eat)and slowly the weight piled on. So here i am at 50 years old and today just felt like a tipping point.

I feel i have tried everything - you name it I've tried it. Atkins, Paleo, calorie counting, weightwatchers, slimming world - I find these clubs a nightmare due to a) social anxiety and b) they are pretty much - 'well done youve lost weight' one week and the next week it feels like 'oh you are a bad person you put on this week' so not my kind of thing.

Where do i go from here. My husband tries to help but has no idea what i am going through and inadvertently when we discuss it i end up in tears so he is reluctant now to talk about it. I have thought about a gastric band but the more i read about it, the more i grow to dislike the idea.

I know everything about the calorie content of just about every food item so its not like i don't know what i'm doing. I just can't stop, its like an addiction.

Thanks for reading, hope i haven't bored you too much, and any helpful suggestion appreciated.

loopyloo Thu 28-Sept-17 21:03:18

Thanks Cherry Tree. Going to have some Night nurse now and see how I feel in the morning.

Cherrytree59 Thu 28-Sept-17 20:55:48

Loopyloo
My advice would be get over your cold first.
Remember the old saying 'feed a cold, starve a fever'.

Hot soups are my fall back especially chicken broth.
No recipe just chuck in plenty of veg etc.
Whatever is lurking in the fridge and needs to be used up.

In the mean time check out some healthy recipes online and then how about writing out some daily meal plans.
So thst when you are feeling better you will be fully prepared.
Keep cakes and biscuits off the list until the end of the month, then allow
yourself a nice treat.
I have read on GN the nice idea of swapping sweet treats for a magazine or a nice bubble bath
.
flowers hope you feel better soon

loopyloo Thu 28-Sept-17 17:45:29

So miserable. Have a cold and have been eating for comfort. Have put weight on again and need to get it under control.
Need to get back to not eating between meals or just healthy snacks.
Any ideas anyone?

Day6 Sat 09-Sept-17 10:44:42

Well said M0nica.

I completely agree. Dieting doesn't work. It messes with you head.

It's good to remember that our size isn't an indicator of our worth, that model-slim is an illusion for most women (they are air-brushed and photo-shopped) and that we have to learn to be happy with ourselves today, just as we are. It's such a waste of life hating our bodies.

Food isn't the enemy.

We all know which foods aren't good for us and which foods we should eat more of. Enjoy your food, make portion sizes smaller, have the odd treat without feeling guilty and try to walk every day.

Most diets are a waste of time. It's been shown that very few people keep weight off after following a restrictive regime.

Don't buy foods like crisps, biscuits, cake, ice cream etc if you cannot resist them. They can be used to stifle low moods and then we see food as reward or treat.

I try to follow my own advice and sometimes I over indulge but I am past hating myself or scolding myself.

Being very over weight isn't good for us, but awareness is a step in the right direction. Try to achieve one 'healthy me' target a day, like a walk or having an oat cake to nibble instead of a doughnut....

Have a doughnut when it's offered if you want one...nothing should be bad, or forbidden. We can slowly train ourselves to choose the healthier option, whilst knowing a little of what we fancy is perfectly ok.

Weight loss will be slow but you'll be getting your life back on track without the agony of yet another failed diet and turning to a tub of ice cream because you've had a bad day.

That tub of ice cream can still be your friend, but you decide when to visit it. Over time you'll find you are making better choices for yourself.

Good luck. Love yourself first, just as you are.

illtellhim Sat 09-Sept-17 10:22:50

Well said Newquay, I love it, but first I shall tell you about my relationship with GC(6,4) who have got their own treat cupboards which when I'm feeling abit down I'll raid , like, big time.

I shall remember ELMAM and repeat it over and over, Gnetters move in mysterious ways. smile

Newquay Sat 09-Sept-17 09:12:00

Another poster was right-the best diet is the ELMAM diet-Eat Less Move Around More. And you have to want to succeed-if your heart isn't in it, like any other addiction, you won't succeed.

M0nica Fri 08-Sept-17 23:18:39

bytheway, Women get brainwashed about what is an 'acceptable' size, an 'acceptable', look. This look is an identikit look regardless of size, shape or genetic inheritance. If women do not meet it they are led to believe they are worthless. This is the vicious circle you have been sucked into

Forget about 'acceptable' looks, weight, or anything else. Learn to stop hating who you are and instead accept yourself for who you are, a lovely woman who has a husband who loves you and supports you. Forget about diets, eating plans, eating more of this and less of that. Just eat what you want when you want it and stop when you feel you have had enough. Throw away every diet and calorie counting book in the house, Stop looking and searching for dieting and weight loss websites. Then prepare a meal of food yo really enjoy, eat it slowly and savour the flavours.

To begin with your body and metabolism will be in utter confusion after years of different diets. So it will take a while for it to start responding normally to food. Take your time, but eventually you will find an eating pattern that suits you and you enjoy. It will probably mean that you are eating much less than at present.

Your problem seems to be more in your mind than in the body. Have you considered counselling or getting your doctor to refer you to an eating disorders clinic where you can get proper psychological support?

Whatever happens, stop fighting food and start enjoying it. Take pride in who you are and what you are and refuse to be defined by other peoples standards.

Hilltopgran Thu 07-Sept-17 23:33:22

You sound just like me, for years I have tried everything and still stayed far too heavy. I too hate the clubs where you have to go every week, so in May one last serious attempt I joined Weightwatchers online and to my surprise I have lost a steady 1lb a week and am half way to losing the 3 stone I made my initial target. It is so easy to just add up your points(calories) by entering them online after each meal, everything is already worked out for you, but if you need to add a receipe to work out your points again it is all very easy.

I think the most important part is to get your portion sizes right for things that you need to count, I weigh everything to start with to understand what size portion I am eating, then you can have as much fruit and veg as you want. For me I was surprised when I counted up my normal days food how much fat and sugar it contained, even though I thought I was eating a healthy diet, controlling those elements has made the difference for me.

Good luck, give it one last go and expect it to take time, there is no quick fix, just healthier eating.

Norah Thu 07-Sept-17 18:26:19

I drink lemon water before every meal, snack, teatime, or pud. I have almost no desire to eat. And I walk 10-13k steps a day, that seems to help as well.

Wuss Thu 07-Sept-17 18:03:09

I'm drinking apple cider vinegar before meals, seems to be working, I've lost 2 stone give it a try!

Cherrytree59 Wed 24-May-17 20:46:39

Hi Junesmith11
Good that you have been able to take something from all the advice given.

Today I have started on my healthy eating .
I never call it a diet as that makes me hungry!!

I am following the slimming world plan.

if you wish to share with GN daily, weekly or even monthly,
I'm sure there will be plenty of GNers to offer their support.
Wishing you wellflowers

Jalima1108 Wed 24-May-17 20:38:42

Am I allowed to put a link to another thread on here? Well, here goes anyway!
www.gransnet.com/forums/dieting_and_exercise/1228651-Low-carb-support-thread-2016-Part-2

Jalima1108 Wed 24-May-17 20:37:31

There are other threads too junesmith11, a support thread for a low carbohydrate diet etc etc I think which could be helpful in keeping you on track.

junesmith11 Wed 24-May-17 20:09:47

I have just read all these messages and feel a bit better about losing weight I have a lot of health problems and badly need to. I have an aortic aneurysm and lymphangioma.Your comments have given me a few hints and I feel a bit better I have been feeling very down recently and I'm comfort eating on biscuits and chocolates and the I am disgusted with myself

Tegan Mon 12-Sept-16 21:00:35

The thing about mirtazapine is that it's non addictive but, boy does it knock you our when you first take it! Could you reduce the amount a tiny bit at a time bytheway? Interesting that you mention insomnia because, during my years of dieting two things made me overeat more than anything else; hormones [which I no longer have] and being tired. Tiredness would make me crave things like crisps [I can eat packet after packet late at night when I'm tired] and sweet things eg ice cream. If only I could have just gone to bed when the tiredness kicked in rather than stay up and hit the fridge/kitchen cupboards I would have been ok.

NanTheWiser Mon 12-Sept-16 12:42:07

I see you're on Mirtazipine,*bytheway*, which does unfortunately give you an appetite. My daughter is on this AD, but as she is usually a skinny soul, it helps her keep her weight normal, and as you say, helps her to sleep. Could your GP possibly try you on an alternative?
Also, I have been doing Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) for the last 4 months, and my weight has dropped by almost a stone, with no effort (Yay!!)- the high fat helps you to feel full, and no temptation to snack. It's not a "diet" but a way of eating, and is wonderful for keeping blood glucose low.
It does mean rethinking food options, but once you get into it, it's easy.
It's not fat that makes you fat, it's the sugar (that includes carbohydrates in things like potatoes, bread, pasta and flour based food), might be worth a look at the low carb thread on here?

Jane10 Sun 11-Sept-16 18:40:33

There is more to health and wellbeing than what one weighs.

janeainsworth Sun 11-Sept-16 17:27:50

jane10 I agree isn't a case of BMI=X therefore must lose weight.
But I think it's a case of if BMI=36, then there's no doubt that many benefits will be gained by losing weight.
Not just the obvious health benefits, but as daphne says, the confidence that will come from feeling in control of one's eating.
It is the OP's choice, and feeling that she has a choice is possibly the first step on the right path.

Nandalot Sun 11-Sept-16 17:10:16

I am glad to hear you sounding so positive, I hope you find something that works for you. Good luck at the docs.

bytheway Sun 11-Sept-16 16:54:00

Hi

Thanks to you all for your replies, i am overwhelmed with the advice offered, I'm so grateful. Lots of good ideas here. Just to provide a little further info, i did see my GP a few weeks ago regarding my weight and she sent me to the nurse for bloods to see if anything wrong like underactive thyroid etc... but nothing, also my blood pressure is normal as is my cholesterol. I have tried changing my meds as the GP said one of them could cause weight gain, unfortunately this particular one also helps me sleep (mirtazipine)and when i tried to reduce it, my insomnia returned with avengance, and believe me, being 6 stone overweight is preferable to coping on 2 hours sleep a night especially with full time work to contend with. I am going to attend an overeaters anonymous group tomorrow to see if that may help (it is a christian group and i am not religious but I'm told non-believers are welcome)and really i would welcome a buddy so fingers crossed on that one.

Just to answer a few other posters...i have tried 5:2 again I just felt hangry as they say, also i am 5'5'' so pretty average height.

Going back to my GP on wednesday to discuss blood results and see if she can suggest anything else. Thanks again for all your replies, i am going to go through this thread again and take notes to help myself and discuss with Doc.

You are all wonderful

Jane10 Sun 11-Sept-16 16:53:58

Daphne it wasn't you I was arguing with! I'm just trying to say its not a cut and dried matter of BMI =X therefore must lose weight! All your suggestions were fine by me. I wonder if the OP will return? Maybe she's reading but not posting? If so, good luck and sincere best wishes.

DaphneBroon Sun 11-Sept-16 16:25:24

jane10 why do any of us make unwise choices in our lives? Some people are attracted to disastrous relationships, some drink, others gamble. We are all fallible in one way or another and if you go back to my first post you will see that far from suggesting the "same old obvious methods" my advice to see a doctor was to check on thyroid function and I have suggested other avenues and possible underlying causes of the weight problem. I also know many women who embarked on the 5;2. diet, lost stones and put it all on again when they reverted to eating normally. I do not advocate "diets" and you may have seen that I also said once you start dieting, your metabolism is basically, to put it crudely, stuffed. Possibly why successive diets WW, SW etc have not worked. My mother survived on a very low calorie daily food intake in Germany in the latter years of the war. When she came to the UK in 1947, despite rationing, no snacks, no alcohol and certainly no junk food as it hadn't been invented, she started to put on weight because she was benefiting from adequate nutrition for the first time in perhaps 5 years. She struggled with her weight to the end of her life. I do wishOP would come back and share her thoughts and also wish her well in getting to the possible root cause of why she is finding it impossible to lose weight.

Jane10 Sun 11-Sept-16 15:19:25

Esspee indeed it is the only way to do it but why is it so hard for some? Its a complex area that leads to misery for some.

Esspee Sun 11-Sept-16 15:01:33

I second Ilrina but wish I had the willpower to do so myself.?

Jane10 Sun 11-Sept-16 14:46:21

Yes Daphne. There is much more to it than just losing weight. She's been trying to do it her whole life and whatever methods she's tried just haven't worked.
Should she keep trying using the same old obvious methods likely to be suggested by GP or rethink and try to come at the issue in a different way. If she can feel better about herself then she may gradually find that food is not the only reward. Hypnotherapy might be an interesting idea to pursue as a change?