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The other side of reducing sugar in foods

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M0nica Wed 02-Jan-19 17:09:35

Tucked into my stocking on Christmas morning was a bottle of Ribena Winter Spice. I hate milk so often have a hot cordial where others would have a milky drink or hot chocolate.

The label said in big print reduced sugar nothing else, but one taste of it had me spitting it out. The sugar that might otherwise be added had been replaced by sweetener and it has a horrible taste that I loathe. When I studied the very tiny print that listed the ingredients. there it was; artificial sweetener, (aspartame and something else).

Now the family has gone home, I have tipped the contents down the sink and recycled the bottle, but now I am going to have to scrutinise the label of anything I buy that might contain sugar to see if it has been replaced by sweetener and, if it is, put it back on the shelf.

I think if manufacturers replace sugar with sweetener, this should be clearly stated on the label in print big enough to read without glasses, at least 8 point type.

seacliff Thu 03-Jan-19 14:15:55

Thanks Sparklefizz - for the tip when drinking PLJ. I was thinking it was a more healthy option than squash with no sugar (but DOES have artificial sweeteners)

I do usually rinse with plain water after, I hope that is enough. I already have crowns!

I really wish all manufacturers were forced to gradually reduce the amount of sugar and salt in our food over several years. And not add artificial flavours instead. Our taste buds would gradually adapt.

icanhandthemback Thu 03-Jan-19 15:11:56

You should be more worried about the air you breath in fact.
I'm holding my breath grin

Gonegirl Thu 03-Jan-19 15:30:06

Love sugar. We have just polished off the last of the Xmas cake. Yum! Sugar never did me any harm and I've been consuming a fair old amount for 77 years now. Not gonna stop.

Gonegirl Thu 03-Jan-19 15:31:51

Tbh honest though, I can never tell the difference between something sugar sweetened, and the artificial stuff. Must have a shocking palate. ?

JaneA Thu 03-Jan-19 15:35:02

Referring to earlier posts - My dog won't drink tap water. I have to go out into the garden and get it from the barrel!

Bijou Thu 03-Jan-19 15:48:25

Regarding children eating too much sugar, surely it is the parents who are to blame or do children do their own catering these days?

seacliff Thu 03-Jan-19 15:51:43

Jane - my cats are the same. They prefer to drink outside from puddles or even the pond!

Izabella Thu 03-Jan-19 16:36:40

mabon1 @12:24. One assumes you have not tasted natures best? Breast milk is unbelievably sweet, so I do not understand your argument. Obviously its combination will fluctuate a little depending on climate, but sweet it remains.

Note: I am not some sort of babymilk fiend. It was during midwifery training! grin

Izabella Thu 03-Jan-19 16:38:31

JaneA I never had a cat who drank out of a bowl. It was watering cans, birdbaths, the toilet, puddles and the odd drain.

janeainsworth Thu 03-Jan-19 17:00:40

bijou Regarding children eating too much sugar, surely it is the parents who are to blame or do children do their own catering these days?
No they don’t, but modern parents seem to be of the view that unless children are fed with snacks between meals they will either perish, the world will end, or they will throw a tantrum because they haven’t had a snack.
So they get snacks.
Of course the snack could be fruit, cut up vegetables or nuts but more frequently it’s some sort of sugary confection.
Also unless parents are super-vigilant it’s easy to fail to spot how much sugar there is in yoghurts and fruit smoothies and cereal bars, which all seem to have a ‘healthy’ image.

janeainsworth Thu 03-Jan-19 17:01:10

And don’t get me started on breakfast cereals?

clareken Thu 03-Jan-19 17:21:56

DD1 has poor tolerance to aspartame, and it caused her to suffer Lupus like symptoms. She avoids it now and is symptom free.

dustyangel Thu 03-Jan-19 17:24:56

I’ve cut out processed sugars over the last year, which effectively ends up being processed carbs. As I’m allergic to palm oil too I’ve lost 3 to 4 kilos over the last year.
It didn’t stop the doctor nagging me about my blood pressure today though. hmm

Barmeyoldbat Thu 03-Jan-19 17:32:45

SarahellenW.... artificial sweeteners also make me feel quite ill with stomach cramps and the need for the loo, quickly. I drink water and a few cups of coffee a day. The first cup of the day always has one lump of sugar in it and afterwards no sugar. I tend to drink a lot of milk as a cold drink.

Morgana Thu 03-Jan-19 18:43:13

I like Vimto, which has a no artificial sweeteners version, although I must now check to see if it contains fructose. We avoid aspartame as it gave my husband terrible leg pains. Very bad for you!

Fennel Thu 03-Jan-19 18:44:03

Is sweet food addictive?
Where we live there's a high rate of obesity. every other person you see is carrying some kind of drink in their hand. And probably most of the drinks are sweetened.
Or some snack food probably with added sugar (or the other one.)

Pittcity Thu 03-Jan-19 18:58:07

Morgana I think you'll find that "original" Vimto, like "original" Ribena now contains Acesulfane K, an artificial sweetener. Neither are the original formula at all.
Artificial sweeteners give me a hangover so I am always reading labels.

Seakay Thu 03-Jan-19 19:38:16

Typical Tory fudging:

don't have a clean air act - ban smoking and leave other dangers in place (eg gangs work in the London underground without masks and come up black and choking, but they aren't allowed to smoke because it's unhealthy)
don't legislate for reduced sweeteners - tax sugar and allow sweeteners which have the same diabetes causing effects and are contraindicated for may illnesses

Seakay Thu 03-Jan-19 19:43:21

Fennel

our bodies are designed to crave high energy difficult to obtain (in nature) sugars and carbohydrates - we haven't changed much since we walked everywhere and getting honey was a challenging and difficult operation.
Now we are largely seated and static and carbs and sugars are cheap and easily available but the craving is still active

Seakay Thu 03-Jan-19 19:47:54

sorry - that should be that they don't legislate for reduced sweetness

ie taxing sugar and allowing sweeteners means foods are just as sweet and our cravings for sweet things continues

Onestepbeyond Thu 03-Jan-19 19:57:36

partytchsmileI like my sugar in alcohol partytchsmile

Legs55 Thu 03-Jan-19 20:46:24

I'm Diabetic Type 2 , advice is not to replace sugar with sweetners. Fruit is high in sugar so I'm restricted to 2 portions per day (apple, banana are 1 portion each, handful of grapes or 2 plums) also beetroot, parsnip & sweetcorn are high in sugar too. I have 2 cups of coffee per day, maybe 3 in the Winter, 1 in the Summer with 2 tsps of sugar coffee doesn't hit the spot without sugar I've tried to cut down but I find it almost impossible. I don't have a "sweet tooth" preferring savoury. I rarely buy a ready meal preferring to cook from scratch but also find it almost impossible to lose weightconfused

Izabella Thu 03-Jan-19 20:57:49

Legs have you looked at the low carb thread?

Scribbles Thu 03-Jan-19 22:36:03

I'm baffled as to why so many brands of toothpaste contain artificial sweetener. It's disgusting and leaves a vile taste behind - not really a desirable result of cleaning one's teeth.

Saetana Thu 03-Jan-19 23:08:54

Check out this article on NHS Choices about a recent study into Aspartame sensitivity www.nhs.uk/news/food-and-diet/research-casts-doubt-on-aspartame-sensitivity/