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How do you score in a test aimed at 10-11 yr olds?

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merlotgran Sat 16-Apr-16 10:58:38

www.sats2016.co.uk/think-youd-pass-your-sats-in-2016/

I had to giggle at the missing apostrophe in the link though.

Indinana Sat 16-Apr-16 20:49:18

Like Daisyanswerdo, my 80% result was likely due to a couple of educated guesses. We were taught grammar in detail when I was at school, but the terminology has changed since then, so I had a bit of head-scratching to do wink

Maggiemaybe Sat 16-Apr-16 21:24:45

70%, but I had to google halfway through to check what some of the terms meant (determiner for one). And I still don't understand some of the answers! blush

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-Apr-16 21:46:40

I can't do any of that stuff. I know what a noun , a verb, and an adjective is. I think I used to know about adverbs. And something called a conjunction. I quite liked conjunctions.That's it though.

How did I get through life without that knowledge?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 16-Apr-16 21:46:57

it

Jalima Sat 16-Apr-16 21:48:01

How did I get 95% plus in my English GCE?

aggie Sat 16-Apr-16 21:58:15

I did A level English and did very well , but scored 50% in this test sad

daphnedill Sat 16-Apr-16 22:49:03

I've seen the test before and I scored 100%. However, I have a degree in French and German, studied linguistics and taught languages for nearly 30 years. Teaching that kind of terminology was my job. I certainly wouldn't have scored highly when I was 11. It's totally ridiculous. It's a secondary school teacher's role to teach formal grammar.

Jalima Sat 16-Apr-16 23:31:00

It's a case of learning the terminology - I would think that most of us would have attained a higher mark had the test been termed in the 'old-fashioned' way.

However, I think I learnt more formal English grammar at what was then 'junior school' than I did at high school - although, of course, learning foreign languages including Latin taught us a lot about grammar too.

tiredoldwoman Sun 17-Apr-16 04:27:15

I only scored 30% . I didn't have a clue - I've got an O grade and Higher Grade English but it was never like this ? Woe is me .

Witzend Sun 17-Apr-16 07:48:05

60% here - a lot of the terminology has changed since my day! That's my excuse, anyway!

Does seem excessive for that age - a complete turnaround from when grammar was a dirty word.

My dds (now mid-late 30s) went to very good schools, but weren't taught much in the way of grammar until they began to learn foreign languages - French, Latin and German were all compulsory for the first 2 or 3 years of senior school. But I remember having to explain to dd1 what an indirect object was, when it came up in German.

I would def. have to read up on this if ever helping Gd with her homework in a few years...

carerof123 Sun 17-Apr-16 08:46:39

I have never heard of many of terms used in this quiz!!!!

Obviously i can not support my grand children with any of their school work.

I always prided myself on using grammar and punctuation correctly when i was at work.

Many of my younger colleagues would laugh at me for being so particular until i explained how use of punctuation could change the context of sentence.

Now i feel i need to have English lessons again to keep up!!!!!

tanith Sun 17-Apr-16 09:10:10

I am just too nice it seems grin that's my excuse anyway...wink

mashable.com/2016/04/15/grammar-obsessed-personality-study/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#5KIQahWW8PqI

daphnedill Sun 17-Apr-16 09:27:19

Terms such as 'subordinating conjunction', 'relative clause', 'modal verb' and 'past progressive' (or any synonyms for them) have, in my experience, never been taught at primary level.

merlotgran Sun 17-Apr-16 10:54:37

Well they are now, daphnedill

DD, who sent me the link, says the kids take it all in their stride and was amused to hear one of her class, who was standing in the lunch queue, tell the dinner lady that 'Mild Madras Curry' was an oxymoron. grin

Gold star for him!!

annodomini Sun 17-Apr-16 11:23:36

I was a grammar freak at school 60+ years ago) and always came top in tests; I taught English for nearly 40 years (though mainly Lit) and I still only scored 80% in that test. I don't know where i went wrong! As for the maths - forget it!

Thingmajig Sun 17-Apr-16 12:49:15

60% and mostly by guesswork ... didn't teach English like that back in the day! It was one of my better subjects too, so maybe I should be ashamed? smile

milkflake Sun 17-Apr-16 13:36:51

I can only echo what jinglbellsfrocks has said!

MaryXYX Sun 17-Apr-16 13:45:32

I got 70% and I think the other three were things that have different names now.

grandMattie Sun 17-Apr-16 14:15:11

I got 70% well supported by my French background where we did heaps of grammar. Was flummoxed by modal verbs and determiners etc... Terminology ain't what it used to be! grin

michellehargreaves Sun 17-Apr-16 14:32:28

70%. What the hell are " determiners "?

daphnedill Sun 17-Apr-16 14:38:02

Words like 'the', a(n), 'this', 'my/your, etc', 'any', etc.

daphnedill Sun 17-Apr-16 14:39:36

Modal verbs

learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/en/english-grammar/verbs/modal-verbs

Mamie Sun 17-Apr-16 14:48:59

What I do find quite funny is that nobody seems to remember the five page discussion we had when I posted the same test in January. grin
www.gransnet.com/forums/education/1222729-For-those-who-say-that-children-dont-learn-grammar-any-more

helmacd Sun 17-Apr-16 14:49:43

80% Am all in favour of grammar being taught; (SATs is another matter). Grammar aids powerful and precise writing as well as being really useful when learning another language. It also aids comprehension when going on to further studies where one often has to read really complex sentences and extract the meaning from them.
You wouldn't teach dressmaking without teaching the basic rules of how to sew seams, use a machine, make darts etc, and grammar is simply the foundation which enables us all to speak and write coherently and effectively.

Cosafina Sun 17-Apr-16 14:58:14

90%, but then I did spend 6 years teaching English as a foreign language