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Student fees

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Anniebach Mon 05-Feb-18 09:03:42

Fair or not?

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/education/generous-student-tuition-fee-grants-12214118

mostlyharmless Mon 19-Feb-18 22:42:53

Apparently it was Nicky Morgan who “misspoke” this morning about the Labour party’s policy on tuition fees.

durhamjen Mon 19-Feb-18 22:46:15

Sorry, lemon, perhaps you could explain the student loan system to me. I assume you have children/grandchildren with loans.
I have.
What have I misunderstood?

durhamjen Mon 19-Feb-18 23:23:01

Any brilliant John Crace article - or shredding of May.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/19/theresa-may-phillip-schofield-this-morning-sofa-student-loans

GracesGranMK2 Tue 20-Feb-18 04:42:33

Interesting bit when she said she was out in her constituency at the weekend Jen. Perhaps she would learn more if she went to some other constituencies.

durhamjen Tue 20-Feb-18 09:02:00

I bet she had a good choice of imdependent schools to visit in Maidenhead.
Why does she bother going to the country anyway, when she asks for questions from the people who have followed her from London?
Give a speech in Derby, and ask Laura , the Telegraph and Sky what their questions are?

durhamjen Tue 20-Feb-18 16:55:04

May's speech yesterday did nothing to reassure students, either in the UK or the EU.

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/brexit-universities-studyeu-european-international-students-poland-a8218521.html

Yorkshiregel Wed 28-Feb-18 10:29:14

The Tories got a shock in the last Election. Labour nearly won it! All because of the Tuition Fees promises. Clegg and Cameron promised to drop the fees, then trebled them, something that made people realise that they were not serious and could make whatever promises they liked, but as soon as they were in power could scrap them just as easily. I feel sorry for the youngsters, they are being 'punished' for being clever and wanting a good education. I believe we should be prepared to pay at least half the cost. We all need doctors, dentists, nurses, scientists etc etc. We also need plumbers, bricklayers, builders, electricians. I believe ALL education should be free because we all benefit in the end.

Yorkshiregel Wed 28-Feb-18 10:37:31

Students were given a double whammy when the Tory government introduced interest rates on the tuition fees loan. This is what will cripple the students. They will be up to their neck in debt until they are drawing a pension. They will have to keep their wages below the threshold or they must start paying the loan off, which in the long run means that they will also draw a reduced pension. How many graduate jobs pay less than £21 thousand? The government is storing up welfare problems for the future imo. Only the rich (as usual) will benefit because they can pay the £50-£75 thousand up front....so no interest to pay! Youngsters cannot afford to buy their own home, or a car, they cannot afford to get married and start a family. I do think this is so unfair....just because they want to become a professional, doctor, dentist, scientist etc etc. No wonder they are going abroad once qualified.

Yorkshiregel Mon 12-Mar-18 08:49:56

When this country moans about the lack of British doctors and nurses the Government should take heed. Our universities are full to bursting because we allow overseas students to come here, filling up the places our own children could have taken up. When they qualify and go back to their own country where does that leave our country? On top of that they increased the fees so that only the rich could afford to send their children, talented or not. Not content with that they applied a massive tax on the debt. No wonder our children think twice. Why would they saddle themselves with a £70 thousand pound debt plus interest on the loan? This comes right at the time when they want to buy their own home, get married and start a family, not to mention buying a car so they can get to work. The very idea of that debt would worry me sick never mind a 22 year old. The Tories are happy with this situation because it keeps the working class children out even though there are many who are capable of going to university. Some more so than others. The rich get educated, they therefore get the best jobs, the working class can always go to Tech school and mend their jaguars for them. This is deliberate manipulation imo, it keeps the classes separate and that is how they like it. Class snobbery at its worst.

Yorkshiregel Mon 12-Mar-18 08:58:43

www.independent.co.uk/topic/tuition-fees

Fair selection here.

Does Sturgeon realise that England is in the EU? Strange woman. England sends money to Scotland to prop up their free university education, and she is offering free places to people in Europe, except for English students. That is discrimination We should have a rethink about this asap.

Anniebach Mon 12-Mar-18 09:25:57

No tax payers in Scotland? Englands saves the
Scots, Welsh and Irish from starvation