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Wasted school time

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Nanof3 Wed 07-Jul-21 09:12:16

This morning the BBC showed a large number of school children aged about 11 singing a song they had learnt to show their support for the football.
So many of these children will have lost months of schooling and have a lot of catching up to do before they break up for the summer holidays.
It smacks of indoctrination to me that nothing is regarded as more important than football. Not all children are sport fans including one of my grandsons who would have been bored and resentful if he was forced to take part in such a waste of time and effort.

Ellianne Thu 08-Jul-21 10:55:24

........ produce a little brochure about the beauty of the country. The tangible stuff.

25Avalon Thu 08-Jul-21 10:55:08

Kali2 a lot of our private schools don’t cream the top. If mummy and daddy didn’t pay half those kids would flounder.

Ellianne Thu 08-Jul-21 10:54:34

The trouble with your suggestion Kali is that at 8 years old most children won't understand or be I interested the workings of the education system in a different country. That type of topic is normally at teacher training level.
If you want to go Danish at KS2 try a day when they make smørrebrød and produc

Nanatoone Thu 08-Jul-21 10:54:32

I haven’t read all the comments yet but this must be the most miserable post I’ve seen on gransnet. Seriously, complaining about children singing, whatever next?

Chewbacca Thu 08-Jul-21 10:50:43

Danemark ???confused

Summerfly Thu 08-Jul-21 10:44:41

Couldn’t agree more GEEKESSE.

Kali2 Thu 08-Jul-21 10:44:11

Ellianne

So now all the excitement is over, here's the answer to Kali's question What would be wrong about learning about the other team's country? ie Denmark's.
In Key Stage 2 History this is one of the components: Viking raids and invasion, Danegeld. Plenty of material already here to learn about Denmark in the curriculum.

Oh yes, teach them about the Danes 13C ago- would be fine as long as it links to todays realities in Danemark. The way they respect and fund a great education system for all, with no private schools to cream the top, for instance.

Kali2 Thu 08-Jul-21 10:41:19

MerylStreep

Kali2
It’s becoming glaringly obvious that you don’t know English schoolchildren as much as you like to think you do.

Ah Meryl- what a daft comment if ever there was one.

optimist Thu 08-Jul-21 10:40:48

Agreed

Riggie Thu 08-Jul-21 10:37:44

In many areas the kids will be on the rundown to the summer holidays with not much formal work being done anyway.

rafichagran Wed 07-Jul-21 23:07:00

In the England team.

Chewbacca Wed 07-Jul-21 23:06:23

Dunno but it's better than ENGERLAND! ENGERLAND or Ferry Cross the Mersey!

rafichagran Wed 07-Jul-21 23:06:07

Lovely to see the children singing and having fun.
It's about being proud of the England team and showing support, it is only a small part of their day, and this type of event is not all the time.
Please dont be miserable and begrudging, the children have had a bad year too so let them have a bit of fun and show pride into the England football team.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 22:57:34

Who? Me?
Never.

Why do sports fans sing Sweet Caroline anyway? It 's not just football fans

Chewbacca Wed 07-Jul-21 22:55:54

I think you're telling porkies Callistemon hmm hmm

Chewbacca Wed 07-Jul-21 22:54:50

They sang Sweet Caroline.
Not Land of Hope and Glory, I Vow to Thee My Country or Rule Britannia!

Traitors the lot of them! Orf with there 'eads!

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 22:52:50

Chewbacca

^Gareth Southgate for PM!^

Hang on Lucca, they're looking for a Head of State on another thread; can't you send him there?

I already suggested him but he phoned me and said he was a bit busy at the moment.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 22:52:02

They sang Sweet Caroline.

Not Land of Hope and Glory, I Vow to Thee My Country or Rule Britannia!

??????

MerylStreep Wed 07-Jul-21 22:51:15

some people could start an argument in an empty room.

Chewbacca Wed 07-Jul-21 22:48:47

Gareth Southgate for PM!

Hang on Lucca, they're looking for a Head of State on another thread; can't you send him there?

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 22:47:58

I don't know how children singing a song in support of England's football team had anything whatsoever to do with hate and nationalism either.

Nor indoctrination.

Apparently it was sung at Gareth Trippier's old school - I expect they are very proud of their ex-pupil.

Lucca Wed 07-Jul-21 22:45:15

No doubt somebody will be along soon to complain that they missed some tv programme or other because of the semi final where England won.
Gareth Southgate for PM !

Chewbacca Wed 07-Jul-21 22:43:08

Did this all start because somebody saw some schoolchildren singing a song? Possibly sweet Caroline?

Pretty much yes Lucca! Bonkers isn't it? grin It's been a gift for the Society of the Perpetually Outraged!

Ellianne Wed 07-Jul-21 22:43:05

So now all the excitement is over, here's the answer to Kali's question What would be wrong about learning about the other team's country? ie Denmark's.
In Key Stage 2 History this is one of the components: Viking raids and invasion, Danegeld. Plenty of material already here to learn about Denmark in the curriculum.

Lucca Wed 07-Jul-21 22:34:25

Sorry can I just clear something up ? Did this all start because somebody saw some schoolchildren singing a song? Possibly sweet Caroline ? And thought they should have been hard at work catching up on some random maths or English target ?

How did we get then to this sort of comment “ It is great to support your home team, yes, but when it come to sheer nationalism, bordering on 'hating the opposition' - then no, it is NOT the school's role at all.”

Really ??