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Nanof3 Wed 07-Jul-21 09:12:16

This morning the BBC showed a large number of school children aged about 11 singing a song they had learnt to show their support for the football.
So many of these children will have lost months of schooling and have a lot of catching up to do before they break up for the summer holidays.
It smacks of indoctrination to me that nothing is regarded as more important than football. Not all children are sport fans including one of my grandsons who would have been bored and resentful if he was forced to take part in such a waste of time and effort.

Chewbacca Wed 07-Jul-21 22:10:56

Some people like to cause division where none exists.

Don't they just. I refer to my post earlier today @ 15.47. When I posted it, I'd meant it to be tongue in cheek and really didn't think anyone would seriously do it. Wrong!! gringrin

MerylStreep Wed 07-Jul-21 22:04:44

Callistemon
Some people like to cause division where none exists.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 21:44:05

Ps they are not school children.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 21:42:06

Ha ha - my English DD is watching the match with her Danish friend!
?

MerylStreep Wed 07-Jul-21 21:41:05

Kali2
It’s becoming glaringly obvious that you don’t know English schoolchildren as much as you like to think you do.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 21:27:01

I think younger ones are more upset that parents won't be allowed to their sports days.

trisher Wed 07-Jul-21 21:22:27

Having taught in schools when England defeats were common I can assure you children just take it in their stride (sometimes much better than their fathers do) and get on with things.

Antonia Wed 07-Jul-21 21:22:14

My granddaughter's class has just had a fun day. Outdoor games, ice cream, a visit from farm animals, bubble machines.
The school as a whole had been brilliant dealing with the children's mental health, I can't fault them. They also do their normal lessons but there has been plenty of light relief. Lots of singing and dancing too.

Ellianne Wed 07-Jul-21 21:10:43

Kali2

Are you sure about that?!?

It worries me too that so many children will almst feel like the world round them will disintegrate if England does not win...
it is not healthy.

I'm 100% sure that tomorrow morning children in junior schools all over the land will not be feeling distressed if England has lost. Their world does not fall apart, they just move on. The children will be more interested in what is being served up for lunch.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 21:06:22

I dont think my DGC will find that their world disintegrates if England doesnt win.

Oh! Just remembered, not all are English grin
They have half Danish friends too.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 07-Jul-21 21:01:27

Kali2

Are you sure about that?!?

It worries me too that so many children will almst feel like the world round them will disintegrate if England does not win...
it is not healthy.

Wrong on every level, primary schools use lots of international sporting events as a tool to educate the children on different cultures and customs alongside the national curriculum.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 07-Jul-21 20:58:41

We have a Danish DiL and GC, no hatred in this family just banter from AC and all GC

MerylStreep Wed 07-Jul-21 20:58:03

Kali2

It could have been a fabulous opportunity to teach a bit about Danemark, and to teach the children that in sport it should be 'may the best team win'. It is great to support your home team, yes, but when it come to sheer nationalism, bordering on 'hating the opposition' - then no, it is NOT the school's role at all.

Were you there in the classroom, No!!!
So your just assuming that the children weren’t told anything about Denmark.
And it’s not bloody nationalism. It’s love of your countries football team and wanting them to win.

Kali2 Wed 07-Jul-21 20:56:30

Are you sure about that?!?

It worries me too that so many children will almst feel like the world round them will disintegrate if England does not win...
it is not healthy.

Ellianne Wed 07-Jul-21 20:52:09

teach the children that in sport it should be may the best team win
That is already achieved very effectively with the "house" system in most British schools. The four teams (houses) compete in more than just sporting events, and the children accept that the team with the most house points wins. The other houses aren't seen as enemies.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 20:43:32

well 'hatred' perhaps not the best word- but certainly see the others as the enemy.

They're not the enemy - they're the opposing team.

Only in your mind, methinks

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 20:42:34

DH just pointed out the two flags which are the converse of each other, which reminded me that I used to have some Danish poppies in the front garden many years ago.

Kali2 Wed 07-Jul-21 20:42:22

well 'hatred' perhaps not the best word- but certainly see the others as the enemy.

They could have sung both songs, or at least a bit of it ... much better fun and to teach that in sport, the other side is NOT the enemy- and may the best side win. What would be wrong about learning about the other team's country?

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 20:40:39

Grandma70s

sodapop

There were some children on Breakfast TV singing the Danish National Anthem this morning, I think their head teacher was Danish.
So many benefits for children learning to sing together.

It was a Danish school in London.

Lovely!

I'd give my Danish friend a hug but it's not allowed.

Callistemon Wed 07-Jul-21 20:38:43

MerylStreep

Jeeez. Some people can just suck the joy out of everything ?

And say there is hatred where I see none in children learning and singing a song.

Heaven forbid that children should have any fun, singing and football should be banned.
Now, what I want is Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the mind of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them. -Mr Gradgrind.

I agree, trisher

Kali2 Wed 07-Jul-21 20:23:33

It could have been a fabulous opportunity to teach a bit about Danemark, and to teach the children that in sport it should be 'may the best team win'. It is great to support your home team, yes, but when it come to sheer nationalism, bordering on 'hating the opposition' - then no, it is NOT the school's role at all.

Grandma70s Wed 07-Jul-21 18:59:24

sodapop

There were some children on Breakfast TV singing the Danish National Anthem this morning, I think their head teacher was Danish.
So many benefits for children learning to sing together.

It was a Danish school in London.

Lucca Wed 07-Jul-21 18:50:20

It certainly seems to be a football song ! Good fun too

NotSpaghetti Wed 07-Jul-21 18:46:23

I scrolled through it too and couldn't find it. ?‍♀️

trisher Wed 07-Jul-21 18:44:54

Just scrolled through the Breakfast TV link and only found one group of children singing the Danish song and one group singing "Sweet Caroline" which may have become a football song but certainly didn't start as one. None of the children looked as if they had been "forced" to sing. Indeed most seemed to be dressed in football appropriate gear and there because they wanted to be. It wasn't exactly the organised singing I imagined the OP was referring to.