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Nanof3 Wed 07-Jul-21 09:12:16

This morning the BBC showed a large number of school children aged about 11 singing a song they had learnt to show their support for the football.
So many of these children will have lost months of schooling and have a lot of catching up to do before they break up for the summer holidays.
It smacks of indoctrination to me that nothing is regarded as more important than football. Not all children are sport fans including one of my grandsons who would have been bored and resentful if he was forced to take part in such a waste of time and effort.

Toadinthehole Wed 07-Jul-21 18:35:56

I would imagine it’s more about the camaraderie than the football itself. There’s nothing to like about football in my opinion, but the togetherness you see around these big fixtures is compelling.
It’s just a shame we can’t get it with everything?

MerylStreep Wed 07-Jul-21 18:34:26

Lucca
Another fun sponge
Has anyone asked Alexa is football coming home?

Lucca Wed 07-Jul-21 18:22:40

MerylStreep

Jeeez. Some people can just suck the joy out of everything ?

Agree! Imagine moaning about some kids singing after the year we’ve had.

sodapop Wed 07-Jul-21 17:23:46

There were some children on Breakfast TV singing the Danish National Anthem this morning, I think their head teacher was Danish.
So many benefits for children learning to sing together.

theworriedwell Wed 07-Jul-21 17:14:07

Some of us don't see any joy in football. I suppose I wasn't bothered until I worked in police admin and saw the people and property that got damaged by the people who felt the joy.

I hate it when I hear that "everyone" "the whole country" etc are interested/thrilled/longing for a win or whatever as I couldn't care less and I actually exist and have my own feelings. It wouldn't be an issue if they said some people/football fans or something similar.

I didn't see the clip, I've stopped watching morning TV as it was all about football and particularly on BBC I think the presenters were being childish about it.

MerylStreep Wed 07-Jul-21 17:02:42

Jeeez. Some people can just suck the joy out of everything ?

Nanof3 Wed 07-Jul-21 16:50:43

Sorry, I am not able to post the link.

Chardy Wed 07-Jul-21 16:46:47

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000xpkm/breakfast-07072021
8.45am

theworriedwell Wed 07-Jul-21 16:43:57

trisher

Why not make everything "optional" some children hate doing maths????

Big dilemma there, do children need to do maths or support football. It's a tough one.

Luckygirl Wed 07-Jul-21 16:38:12

geekesse - you have listed some of the benefits of school singing. In the course of a school year pupils will sing songs that interest them and some that don't - but singing together is very much a good thing.

Chardy Wed 07-Jul-21 16:37:26

Learning to sing a song is good for their reading (they're learning about rhyming), it's good for their maths (counting the beats and sequencing) and for many, this is the precursor to learning about musical notation etc which is also linked to maths.

NotSpaghetti Wed 07-Jul-21 16:29:10

Please can someone post the link?
Thanks

PaperMonster Wed 07-Jul-21 16:26:01

What a fab thing for the children to do! My daughter’s primary age and has been involved in a big-sing type thing recently. Loved it. She’s not a footy fan but would still have loved being involved in something like this.

25Avalon Wed 07-Jul-21 16:05:59

At dd’s primary school they have stopped doing catch up maths and English as it is affecting some children’s mental health. Instead they are doing fun things. This week dd is away with year 6 on an activity holiday.

Children do need cheering up. Most of the country (England) is cheering the National football team and looking forward to tonight’s game, even those who are not regular supporters. Why should children be left out? They want to be part of this too. You don’t have to like football or playing sports. It can unite us all albeit briefly.

Lucca Wed 07-Jul-21 15:49:28

Nanof3

I didn't mind the singing it's having football forced on everyone that bothers me.
Go Denmark!

Don’t like football either but so what ? It’s a pretty important sporting event and could lead to loads of teaching/learning about teams numbers countries flags etc etc

Chewbacca Wed 07-Jul-21 15:47:55

School children singing? All together? OMG that should be stopped immediately. What about breaches in COVID rules? Did they wear masks? And what if some of those children didn't actually support that football team and so may have suffered trauma? Clearly this was a breach of something.

Lucca Wed 07-Jul-21 15:46:48

Redhead56

My son disliked football at school and was only interested in running so would have not liked having to sing about football. It might have been better for it to be optional giving each school child the choice.

??? How would that work ?

NotSpaghetti Wed 07-Jul-21 15:41:49

Ok, maybe I have the wrong end of the stick here. I assumed they were having to sing a particular football song (Football's coming home springs to mind) which would not be in support of "their" team for quite a few.
Maybe they were singing about football in general?

Of my seven grandchildren, for example, one is "cheering on" Italy and another had been "supporting" Germany. My next-door-neighbour and family were all for Scotland.
I admit most of us would be backing England but really, it's not a neutral topic any more than a political one would be.

Nanof3, please can you post the link?

Grandmabatty Wed 07-Jul-21 12:12:04

I'm with Geekesse here. Some will be football fans or have parents who are. Singing together encourages so many skills. Good for them. And my team isn't in the running!

vegansrock Wed 07-Jul-21 12:10:58

I’m not bothered about football but is it any different to singing about nymphs and shepherds or we three kings or anything else ? It’s singing together is the important bit, some kids won’t like it, but some don’t like art or maths either.

trisher Wed 07-Jul-21 12:06:03

Why not make everything "optional" some children hate doing maths????

Antonia Wed 07-Jul-21 11:22:16

It might have been better for it to be optional giving each school child the choice.
And who looks after the children who don't care to sing?

Jaxjacky Wed 07-Jul-21 11:12:51

I doubt if any were ‘forced’, most teachers don’t work that way. ?????????????????????

Nanof3 Wed 07-Jul-21 10:11:17

I didn't mind the singing it's having football forced on everyone that bothers me.
Go Denmark!

Redhead56 Wed 07-Jul-21 10:09:05

My son disliked football at school and was only interested in running so would have not liked having to sing about football. It might have been better for it to be optional giving each school child the choice.