*SUPPORT* for all who are living with estrangement

Oh the poor thing PF being 2 weeks late; has there been any suggestion of 'hurrying things along'?. She must be fed up.

Music at this time of the years is the best part for me too.

The carol service was lovely. Oh how I love to sing, open up your lungs and just sing. We did a beautiful descant to the last verse and chorus of 'Oh Come All Ye Faithfull'.

Sounds wonderful Smileless. I would love to hear you sing - I have no talent in that direction, but music really lifts my soul!

DD has to go back to the hospital tomorrow to check everything, but they will not induce, as DGD1 was an emergency C section - so I fear that it may be an elective C section, which DD is understandably anxious to avoid.

DD2 is here at present. We had a long chat today. She (and DD3) would really love to meet their nieces and have a relationship with them, but are afraid that any overtures on their part will be turned into a power game by SIL. DD2 has also cautioned me again against what she feels is an abusive relationship. The thing is that she articulates my deepest and darkest thoughts so clearly, even without my expressing them.

Oh well, one day at time. I just want DGD2 to be born and she and DD1 to be safe and well. I can't think of anything else right now.

PFchurches are the best places to sing because the acoustics are simply perfect.

The do have a point PF. If they want to get to know their nieces, that is something they would need to pursue independently from you. I can see how your s.i.l. could use anything you may on their behalf, regardless of how innocuous, against you.

Hopefully it wont be long now until you hear that all is well with DD1 and your DGD2, and then you can tell all of us that all is well x.

Thanks Smileless, that's great advice

I assume you're still waiting PF

Smileless - Yep! Consultant said all healthy, can wait up to another week, although I am not sure DD wants to wait that long. It's waiting game. I have some Christmas presents for baby but am a bit superstitious about sending them, if you know what I mean. They won't induce as the first (unknown) GDC was by emergency C section, and she would obviously prefer to avoid a second one. As I say, it's a waiting game!

How are you today? Thinking of you

Sorry, I see that I have repeated myself from the previous post, just a bit anxious.

That apart, I am sufficiently ahead of the Christmas game, that I have even watched Christmas Carol - an essential part of my Christmas! And its message is as resonant today as it was in Dickens's lifetime - so many people cold and lonely and homeless. It's heartbreaking and puts my own worries into perspective.

I'm doing OK thanks PF. Your poor D, going 3 weeks over is no joke is it? Keeping everything crossed that she's home safe and well with the baby for Christmas.

We've watched it too, the one with Patrick Stewart which is one of my favourites. My other favourite is the Muppets' version.

Yes, Patrick Stewart is our favourite too!

ES's birthday today. Not my favourite day these days.
Hope you're all having a good one.

hugshelp

hugshelp Hope you have managed to go through the day without too much torment.

hugshelp. All I can say is I understand xx

Thinking of you, hugs .

Today is a new day and the shortest day. Now the light will be longer and the nights and the darkness shorter. Remember all those people who love you and care for you and think what a lovely Christmas you will have with them. You have used ES's birthday as a time for remembering him, and rightly so, but don't let your feelings of regret over the past cloud the future or overshadow the joy there is to be had in life. It is just one segment of your life that is not ok. Alright, it is a segment that goes right through to the centre and cutting the segment out is excruciating, but it is still only a segment, a fragment of you and your life.

You are a wonderful, compassionate person - as is clear form your supportive posts on this thread. If DS is not currently in your life, it is his loss. I believe that he will come to realise this in time, but you can't let this stop you from living in the present or embracing all of the positives.

Sending you love and prayers and all good things for Christmas xx

PS Still waiting but Monday is the long stop date.

Thinking of you and your D as you wait PF; hopefully you wont be waiting for much longer xx

hugshelpyou and I are in the same boat. Yesterday was my ES and ESS birthday too. My dad also passed away on this day. I couldn’t wait for the day to end. As much as we try to put that day out of our mind it’s always there isn’t it? I send my ES a card anyways saying I’m sorry we haven’t been able to see each other but hopefully we can someday. It made me feel better even if it meant nothing to him.

Oh, these "anniversary dates" must be hard, I know, hugshelp and Rhinestone. Hope you're getting through and that you have a peaceful Christmas.

What a beautiful post, Petit! Best wishes to your D and to you as well!

Thank you for the wonderful post PF and goodness the waiting must be really driving you up the wall now!

Oh goodness what a tough day you must have had Rhinestone

DH is watching footy and having a good moan about the ref. While I'm doing a bit of knitting. Feels like a nice homely way to spend an afternoon together.

That’s exactly what we’re doing hugshelp! And now it’s extra time so there’s more torture for our menfolk!

Haven’t posted on the estrangement threads for a while as they seemed to get really nasty at one point with some deleted etc but I do wish all who are estranged a peaceful Christmas and with a new baby for Petitfromage let’s hope there’s more reconciliation on the way. X

Rhinestone a very difficult day for you to get through.

Pantglas good to hear from you 'Merry Christmas'

Good to see you Pantglas2. I feel there's been a more relaxed and wholly supportive atmosphere lately and hope you will stick arround. Have a good Christmas. x

Just want to wish everyone Happy Holidays, Kwanzaa, Christmas, Hanukah or whatever you celebrate. Let’s hope for peace in this world ,but especially for peace to be in our own lives, and in those we love but cannot be with.