I promise

I haven't even looked at it 3nanny; welbeck's post was lovely and as you've posted PF has raised the tone of the thread.

welbeck, thank you for sharing the lovely poem by Khalil Gibran and for raising the tone of the thread.

I love that welbeck - it’s gentle, kind and uplifting. It reminds us all that our children are ‘on loan’ to us. Kindness and listening (sometimes keeping a ‘zip on it’ whilst doing so!) is key with adult children in my opinion. x

Not sure that interesting article exactly describes the behaviour expressed in the OP.

Oddly, or not, parents have been praised by court judges for such behavior, stating that not many parents would hunt down their drug addicted adult children-

www.npr.org/2018/10/19/658781285/father-and-son-behind-beautiful-boy-share-their-story-of-addiction-and-recovery

glad you liked it.
beauty speaks to hearts everywhere.

Welbeck if only more people had that lovely perspective and those who didn't could at least change it now rather than hang on to pride

You know Smileless2012 the post was lovely something most can relate to. There seems to be another post gone up about inside the mind of an abuser I really cannot get my head around it or even comment on it.

Yes Welbeck's post does make much more sense 3nanny.

Welbeck that is lovely and makes much more sense.

Ah, welbeck how lovely. thank you.

Yes - thank you so much for that - I will pass this on to my DD and DSs all of whom have young children - might strike a chord with at least one of them

Welbeck Have never seen that before. Wise words. Thanks

Now that makes far more sense, thank you for sharing that welbeck

That's lovely welbeck.

i prefer Khalil Gibran,

On Children
​
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life’s longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

​

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

​

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer’s hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.
​

by Khalil Gibran

Daft! Don't think its meant to be serious. Nor do I think it is funny. Psycho babble is a good description.

BlueBelle

‘Flip out on you’ what sort of language is that
Definitely sounds like American rubbish to my ears

Completely agree BlueBelle. It's just psycho babble drivel.

To "flip out on" means to get 'stupid mad'/irrationally angry or over the top dramatic in expression of anger.

Good god. What a load of rubbish ! Flip you out what the hell does that mean!

‘Flip out on you’ what sort of language is that
Definitely sounds like American rubbish to my ears

The first two lines are fine... It's the rest that is cringe worthy.

Very Sentimental to give to your child. Not it is stupid rubbish and should be viewed that way.

That's just weird

How is any of this love? How can you bring up a child like this and let them go off into the world thinking its OK for their future relationships to be anything like this?

Its just baffling to me. Society has issues