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Son and DIL won't see me any more

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Redhead56 Tue 06-Apr-21 13:40:55

It sounds as if your husband put money before his family. Your daughter appears to take after him. Was your daughter given money while your son wasn't?

Your daughter is in control of your finances now you need to take charge of this yourself.

Your son is upset you really do need to talk to him and get the conversation about finances out in the open.

You have a brother and friends talk to them. Stop pretending all is well when clearly it isn't you will make yourself ill if you haven't already. It's probably best to talk just about your current financial situation. They may help you clarify the information you get when you take charge of your own finances.

I hope you sort it out sooner rather than later and your relationship with your son.

silverlining48 Tue 06-Apr-21 13:38:09

Asdf why not read your post again, but from your sons point of view. You may then better understand how he might feel.

Hithere Tue 06-Apr-21 13:22:06

Let's see if I read it properly:
1. Your husband was a bully and abusive all his life
2. He and you clearly favoured your daughter since the beginning
3. You clearly did not defend your son when he was attacked by your husband and daughter and did not stand up for him
4. Your two kids were named executors when their father died but your son was excluded, you leaving that role happily into your daughter's hands
5. You DENIED past events because you didnt know what to say to your son and dil and they were trying to talk about it and clear the air

And you are surprised they dont talk to you?

Asdf Tue 06-Apr-21 13:16:30

@HomeAgain123 I couldn't speak to them they've enough going on in their lives I've never told them but I think my dd told my sil about my ds and Dil but I was in the other room so didn't really hear.

@peasblossom my DD is s very good at sorting things out she always knew more about our money than me so it was best she deal with it. My DS thinks she is greedy but she runs everything she has done by me so I'm aware she would just prefer me not to tell DS and as he never asked me about DH will even though he was an executor it wasn't an issue. I didn't want to cause arguments.

@silverlining48 we helped my dd with the money for the houses whilst my DH was still alive. After the second house my DH and dd gave my son some money yet he still was upset and claimed to have been lied to for years. He said that bothers him not money but if that were true he would've put the past behind him.

I am sole beneficiary of the will so kids only get something when I'm gone although I did let dd keep DH car because I can't drive

silverlining48 Tue 06-Apr-21 12:46:17

I can understand why your son is upset. You stood up for your daughter who has been given money for different houses and despite there being 3 executors to your dh Will she still dealt solely with it. Was your son consulted about this? Did he receive his share of the estate?
You can’t please everybody by agreeing with them all. It just makes things worse and I hope you can get this sorted out.

Peasblossom Tue 06-Apr-21 12:27:33

It does sound a muddle.

My immediate reaction is do you know what you daughter has done in regard to your house and finances? You say she has taken charge. Have you signed things without really knowing what you have signed?

Do you really know where you stand now?

HomeAgain123 Tue 06-Apr-21 12:24:27

im sorry but found this quite difficult to read initially i thought your daughter and husband sounded very controlling and obsessed with money and your son and his family receiving nothing from you or your husband . I can only suggest talking to someone maybe your sister in law/ brother who may be able to help you see through this fog.

Asdf Tue 06-Apr-21 12:12:07

I am new here, I'd appreciate some honesty but it may take a long post to explain.

My late dh was abused by his parents his father died and his mother was an awful trouble maker. He prioritised her over our family because he felt that his mother would leave him more of her estate than his sister. This was his life and he was at his mother's house at every opportunity me and our children came very far down his list of priorities.

His mother was so horrid I soon couldn't bring myself to visit her and our children very rarely visited her. I never spoke to her for over 30 years and when she died she left her estate 50/50 between my DH and his sister.

During the time bringing up our DC my parents died quite young within a few years of eachother. My brother was quite young at the time and it hit him bad. We got 50/50 of their estate and my young brother bought a house but also squandered quite a bit. He has mental health problems.

My DH over the years was very nasty about my brother and although it upset me I ignored it. When my brother visited with his wife my DH was brilliant with his children and lovely to his wife but rude and surly to my brother. He would do this if he went to my brother's house too. I ignored it nobody mentioned it, it was just accepted.

My husband was very close with my DD and he would often warn her about my brother as she was growing up telling her how he was interested in stealing our money and getting his hands on our house. He would tell her I couldn't be trusted not to give everything to my brother and eventually she knew more of our finances than I did. The two of them had secrets about our money and she grew very resentful of my brother. She also used to report anything she thought I'd done wrong to my husband and we would argue. She spent most of her teens and adulthood speaking very rudely to me. Again I just ignored it.

My DH had an idea that we would use the money from my parents estate to buy a house that my dd and ds could live in together. My dd was made aware of this and my ds wasn't.

When my ds was in his very early 20s he met his future wife. She was very nice and you could tell it was going to be a serious relationship. From the beginning my dd said things about this girl that I knew were not true, they were very nasty and unkind and I wasn't sure they were even true. My DH believed it all and was surly and rude to the girl when she came to visit. My DH and dd would say my ds had been disloyal and was choosing his new gf over his family. They would say my son's gf had it in for my dd and my dh became over concerned about what would happen to our house and money if we died and ds had a gf. They decided ds couldn't be trusted. I ignored everything, sometimes I'd stick up for my son and his gf because they really did nothing wrong but I'd be shouted down.

After about two years of this my dh and dd decided between them to give all of the money we kept from my parents estate to dd to buy a three bedroom house. She had just met a new man and they were planning to marry. He had a good job that paid well so it seemed like a good idea. My dh said we only had enough money to help one child and could make it up later. I agreed.

Shortly after my ds and his gf announced they were expecting a baby. When my gc was born my son and his gf came to live with us as they couldn't afford to rent privately any more. I got to spend so much precious time with the new baby and my son and his gf were no problem at all. My dh wasn't happy he said terrible things about my son's gf and made nasty comments about their parenting. My dh and dd raised concerns that my son and his gf would get their hands on the deeds to the house and that they would refuse to move out. I ignored this and because my ds and his gf never mentioned it, it wasn't an issue.

When they did move out after 11 weeks my DH cleared everything of my ds out if the house and made sure nothing of his remained. My dd's bedroom has looked the same since she was a teen and still does now.
My dd married then after a year split with her husband. He did very well and walked away with the house so we helped my dd into another house, this time a 2 bed.

When my son announced his wedding my dh said "Don't do it" instead of congratulations. He didn't say one word to the bride and groom the whole day and my dd disappeared somewhere for hours leaving us worried about her. I didn't feel comfortable to display photographs of the wedding because I knew my DH wouldn't like it. Dh also was devastated when they announced the pregnancy of the second child shortly after the wedding. DH always complained about Dil and how she parented GC. I had no problem with it they are very well behaved children and a pleasure to have around.

Dd went on to have a child with a new partner but the relationship failed and I took on full time care if the child while dd was at work. This left me with far less time to see ds and his family. He and dd had not spoken properly since we helped dd into her first house. I think he was slightly jealous because he had lots of housing issues. When DH went to hospital and knew he would die, he worried dd ex would get her house so he gave her money to help buy another house and also he worried about ds and Dil as he thought they would try to take my house and money so he asked dd to move in with me.

When DH passed away me and dd became very close we live between both of our houses. DH will named me and our two DC as executors and me as sole beneficiary. Dd sorted everything she was very good she also took charge of my house and finances throwing things out and making decisions. She didn't want to involve ds due to concerns she and my DH had over their potential behaviour where our house and money was concerned. I went along with it.
I saw my ds once a week for a couple of hours but I was exhausted

One day my ds and Dil sat me down and told me what I already knew had gone on through out the years. I didn't know what to say so I denied it. My Dil said some not very nice things about my ds and my dh and my son mentioned issues around the house and money it made me think DH and dd had been right all along. I defended my DD and I made excuses because I wanted to keep the peace.

I haven't seen them since and I miss them terribly. My DD says she is sad because she had a brother and doesn't anymore although she believes this was Dil plan all along. I agree to her face but I'm not sure I'm confused, hurt and I just don't know what to do. I haven't told any of my friends or my brother that this has gone on over the years I pretend it's all ok.
Sorry for long post