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MissAdventure

What a shame for the little tots tortured to death by their "parents", then, Bibbity.

Thanks for backing me up.

Unfit parents - social services.

MissAdventure

What a shame for the little tots tortured to death by their "parents", then, Bibbity.

How would access prevent this?

What a shame for the little tots tortured to death by their "parents", then, Bibbity.

Not really. Parents fit - they decide
Parents unfit - Social workers need to be involve

Never a case for GRP. Ever.

MissAdventure

They may, they may not.
Every single case is different.

I think this is fair

They may, they may not.
Every single case is different.

When my mum first said "you are using your children as weapons" my first thought was that it was her mknd that views them that way.

It may not be the case in any estrangement they may not be using children as weapons, just deciding a relationship is over

No they are not weapons or pawns. They are our babies.

Not anyone else's. And again when threatened many parents will do anything to protect them.

MissAdventure

Not really, violet, because a lot of grandparents ate simply cut off.
Letters returned, apologies not accepted (though money is often ok, strangely)
How would you propose someone would heal that situation?
If any grandparents dare post on here about sending a letter, they are met with cries of "harassment" and "abuse".

There must be a point where it is possible.

Those letters always seem to come on special days that they may blight in some way.

Rainy day, right words, it would have worked for me.

I read the messages that came through for years, they were just too full of guilt trips and what a horrible person I was so obviously that's not going to help

But that is how they are used, sometimes.
How many threads on here are there about walking on eggshells, so as to be allowed to stay in the grandchildren lives?
Plenty.

As we say time and time again MissA damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Children are not weapons nor are they the smallest pieces on a chess board.

Not really, violet, because a lot of grandparents ate simply cut off.
Letters returned, apologies not accepted (though money is often ok, strangely)
How would you propose someone would heal that situation?
If any grandparents dare post on here about sending a letter, they are met with cries of "harassment" and "abuse".

Smileless2012

Gosh, so what it comes down to then isn't it simply being about parents desperately trying to protect their children from their evil GP's for some it's all a game that some parents play and the children are the pawns. Oh dear.

How so? The parents have done nothing. They didn't drag anyone into this fight.
They made a decisions for their family and someone outside of that Nuclear family is attacking it.

Being tactical when under attack is smart. Ensure that once it is over it can't happen again.

I don't suppose a court would give a second thought to the parents, and who they were vindictive to.
Again, though, I would expect the court to disregard that and act in a child's best interests.

I don't know why a topic about grandparents and grandchildren has so many answers and so much discussion but there are no threads discussing the best way to heal the relationship between parents and adult children.

Does anyone else find that ridiculously sad?

Yes the parents are in total control which is why there is so much heartache. The trouble is children can be used as weapons to inflict more pain on the grandparents.

Gosh, so what it comes down to then isn't it simply being about parents desperately trying to protect their children from their evil GP's for some it's all a game that some parents play and the children are the pawns. Oh dear.

And also many many not. The reality is the parents are still in Tortola control.

Some parents once they become educated go on with no or little Legal assistance. Then it becomes a game of how high can they rack up the other sides bills.

Bibbity
Because the parents allow it! They could decide to stop it and nothing will happen

So there have been successful contact orders given then .

Yes because the parents are law biding citizens Bibbity and do as instructed by the courts.

MissAdventure

Being vindictive isn't a crime, it's true, but why wouldn't a court be interested in a child's best interests?

If there are no concerns for the child in the parent’s care, do you honestly think a court is interested in whether the parent is being vindictive towards a grandparent. Or their employer? Or whoever for that matter.

Do you honestly think courts and child services have nothing better to do with their time?

They are not the morality police!

Smileless2012

I know of GP's who have successfully been awarded contact and are able to see their GC Bibbity.

Because the parents allow it! They could decide to stop it and nothing will happen.

Smileless2012

I know of GP's who have successfully been awarded contact and are able to see their GC Bibbity.

So why the need for this petition?

Being vindictive isn't a crime, it's true, but why wouldn't a court be interested in a child's best interests?