Harry: "I want my Father back. I want my brother back"

Are Meghan and/or Diana and/or Catherine from South Wales?

Gosh, I need to read up more...

Estrangement is painful whether you're the child or the parent, though. If only none of it got into the newspapers or on TV I think there would be more chance of overcoming it

Very good point, OnwardandUpward.
Not having suffered like that (but never complacent) I feel for you.

I can hear my mother again - 'Least said, soonest mended'

Glorianny your post ‘dead or dead quiet’ so reminded me of a trisher mocking, ‘they are like 1950’s housewives’, she certainly had no knowledge of S.Wales women.

no class system/pedestal in America ? really ?
how come there are such phrases as,
white trailer trash etc.
and people boast of their income, that they live in an affluent area, and there are strong residents' groups to keep out the wrong sort of people.
most countries have their own class system.

Oops

'Arry? Got a job for you son.

Well. The real reason I am a bit annoyed by H&M is that it's public & there are proper channels to try and work things out with family, especially if you're in the RF! I don't think they were advised well or listened to sensible advice because condemning your family publicly when they are the RF was never going to end well.

With an estranged son and coming here for support, my situation is pretty different than Charles and Harry's. Estrangement is painful whether you're the child or the parent, though. If only none of it got into the newspapers or on TV I think there would be more chance of overcoming it.

Oh, fgs.

You are better than that, volver.
And know better.

Callistemon21

^It interests me how many people who are vocally favour of the monarchy often know very little about it^

How could you possibly know that?

It's interesting that people who criticise others for spending so much time supposedly thinking too much about Harry and Meghan are always very much in evidence on M&H threads.

🤔

I don't "know". I just said it interests me.

All human life is here.

Callistemon21

^It interests me how many people who are vocally favour of the monarchy often know very little about it^

How could you possibly know that?

It's interesting that people who criticise others for spending so much time supposedly thinking too much about Harry and Meghan are always very much in evidence on M&H threads.

🤔

I do hope you’re not querying VD’s omniscience, Callistemon21.
You’re right about your second paragraph too.

Callistemon21

^So you are saying he should use his charitable activities to make money?^

Nope, didn't say that at all.

Perhaps he could have set up his own security firm, some service personnel do that.

Two problems, one algorithm. Earn a living and be able to provide his own security.

Allo.

'Arry's 'Eavies here.

All security needs catered for. Got a fake sheik on your tail? I'll sort 'im out for you.

Boverered by girls you used to know? I'll send them back to the other side of the world, no questions asked.

No job too small.

It interests me how many people who are vocally favour of the monarchy often know very little about it

How could you possibly know that?

It's interesting that people who criticise others for spending so much time supposedly thinking too much about Harry and Meghan are always very much in evidence on M&H threads.

🤔

AGAA4

Exactly HPQ. None of us do know. There are two sides to this and we hear only one. How can we judge?

Indeed.

We don't know these people (or I don't). I read of them and their dramas on GN and in the news occasionally.

Given there are 2 sides to all disputes, some unforgivable/ not worthy of discussion and some to be worked on - it's my opinion we may read a conclusion 'my father would like to have me back', someday.

Parents love their children no matter, in my world. Harry is not a murderer/ rapist/ Hitler. He seems just a man who wants his dad to love him.

So you are saying he should use his charitable activities to make money?

Nope, didn't say that at all.

Perhaps he could have set up his own security firm, some service personnel do that.

Two problems, one algorithm. Earn a living and be able to provide his own security.

Canada and royalty thecanadaguide.com/government/the-monarchy/
^the Canadian Constitution grants sweeping political powers to “the Queen,” declaring that “the executive government and authority of and over Canada” is vested in her^- bit out of date!

Floriel

It reminds of the old story of the boy who shoots both his parents and pleads for mercy from the judge - ‘Have pity on me, I’m a poor orphan.’

Oh dear!

If MM had stayed and committed suicide or been killed in a car crash I suppose many posters on here would be saying how wonderful she was. Or if she had kept quiet.
Dead or Dead Quiet seem to be the only options for women who marry into the RF.
(Have I been watching too much Frankie Boyle?)

Callistemon21

volver

www.polgeonow.com/2022/09/king-charles-countries-15-commonwealth-realms.html

indeed

Which is what I said anyway

He wasn't banished from the realm.

I think Glorianny and I are having a tautology argument
😂😂😂
Lost in Translation

My was in answer to Lathyrus.

It interests me how many people who are vocally favour of the monarchy often know very little about it.

volver

www.polgeonow.com/2022/09/king-charles-countries-15-commonwealth-realms.html

indeed

Which is what I said anyway

He wasn't banished from the realm.

I think Glorianny and I are having a tautology argument
😂😂😂
Lost in Translation

VioletSky

What a strange thought

Royalty means you don't get "real problems"

Just suck it up and behave the way the public expects I suppose

I am seeing it everywhere.

They are rich and spoiled, so they do not "deserve" to have mental health or family problems.

Everyone seems to forget that even King Charles puts his pants on one leg at a time.

But, of course, my viewpoint stems from being an American where there is no class system. No pedestal.

I also agree that those who are estranged and those who estranged have a totally different viewpoint on the topic.

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Callistemon21

he's just doing what you all wanted earning his own living (and wsupporting charities- but I suppose that's wrong as well)

Yes, jolly good, so are most of our DC I expect.
Well done

But not trashing their families in the process then crying crocodile tears in public because their loved ones have withdrawn in their hurt and confusion.

My DSs were raised in the real world and are useful and productive members of society.
Harry was raised in a bubble and an institution his main purpose being a substitute. Not surprisingly he has few skills and needs expensive protection. so he's making money any way he can.
Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out.

But he's an ex-Army officer, Glorianny!

There is support and guidance available, both from official and voluntary sectors. Harry knows that because he helped set up The Invictus Games too and will know how and where to get help and training.
There was a wealth of opportunity out there for him without being part of the Royal 'Firm'. He has seized some of these opportunities but would never have been in this unhappy position if he'd pursued all the opportunities available to him and not tried to earn money by publicly criticising his family.

But his charity and humanitarian work is continuing Callistemon21 I don't suppose he feels he can make money from that though. They were presented with a "Ripple of Hope" Award in December.

But his charity and humanitarian work is continuing Callistemon21
Um, isn't that just what I said too? 🤔

He has seized some of these opportunities

but would never have been in this unhappy position if he'd pursued all the opportunities available to him and not tried to earn money by publicly criticising his family.

So you are saying he should use his charitable activities to make money? Isn't that a bit difficult given the amount of security they need? Would it even bepossible?

www.polgeonow.com/2022/09/king-charles-countries-15-commonwealth-realms.html

indeed

“Canada -isn’t that part of the realm?”

What???????

🙄

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Callistemon21

he's just doing what you all wanted earning his own living (and wsupporting charities- but I suppose that's wrong as well)

Yes, jolly good, so are most of our DC I expect.
Well done

But not trashing their families in the process then crying crocodile tears in public because their loved ones have withdrawn in their hurt and confusion.

My DSs were raised in the real world and are useful and productive members of society.
Harry was raised in a bubble and an institution his main purpose being a substitute. Not surprisingly he has few skills and needs expensive protection. so he's making money any way he can.
Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out.

But he's an ex-Army officer, Glorianny!

There is support and guidance available, both from official and voluntary sectors. Harry knows that because he helped set up The Invictus Games too and will know how and where to get help and training.
There was a wealth of opportunity out there for him without being part of the Royal 'Firm'. He has seized some of these opportunities but would never have been in this unhappy position if he'd pursued all the opportunities available to him and not tried to earn money by publicly criticising his family.

But his charity and humanitarian work is continuing Callistemon21 I don't suppose he feels he can make money from that though. They were presented with a "Ripple of Hope" Award in December.

But his charity and humanitarian work is continuing Callistemon21
Um, isn't that just what I said too? 🤔

He has seized some of these opportunities

but would never have been in this unhappy position if he'd pursued all the opportunities available to him and not tried to earn money by publicly criticising his family.

We have probably heard it all anyway so no need to buy the book. Just give your money to a charity instead.

Exactly HPQ. None of us do know. There are two sides to this and we hear only one. How can we judge?