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My greatest wish is to see my granddaughter whom I still love despite everything.

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pinkprincess Sat 26-Aug-23 22:00:09

One of my granddaughters has gone NC with me.I will not give the details on here as it would ''out''me.
We had a misunderstanding last week and now she says she hates me and does not want to speak to or see me again.
My heart is broken completely, especially since she has blocked her phone number from me and refuses to tell me her address
She is living alone, her mother and siblings will know where but I do not want to ask them as I know it would break her trust in them if they told me.
I love her very much and have done a lot for her.
Just know never to take anything for granted as it can be lost very easily.

DiamondLily Fri 15-Sept-23 15:33:41

Smileless2012

It is as you say DL unusual for GP's to go to court for contact and even if they're successful, where the parents dig in and subvert that contact for no good reason, it's very difficult for any court order to be enforced.

I agree that it's difficult to say if this approach is in the best interests of the child or not, having said that I fail to see how it is ever in the best interest of children to suddenly lose all contact with the GP's they've had in their lives.

Not sure why the original post got deleted (?), but, no, I agree, in general, it's not ever a good idea for adult rows to interfere with GP/GC relationships.

Unless there's harm/abuse, risking the children, I don't really understand it.

But, I suppose it's the same, sometimes, when two parents split up. Anger, bitterness, revenge and foot stamping impede normal contact, and the children become weaponised..πŸ™

Shame though.

Smileless2012 Fri 15-Sept-23 12:21:22

It is as you say DL unusual for GP's to go to court for contact and even if they're successful, where the parents dig in and subvert that contact for no good reason, it's very difficult for any court order to be enforced.

I agree that it's difficult to say if this approach is in the best interests of the child or not, having said that I fail to see how it is ever in the best interest of children to suddenly lose all contact with the GP's they've had in their lives.

DiamondLily Fri 15-Sept-23 06:57:47

It's quite unusual for grandparents to go to court to try and get contact - it's expensive, and not many cases succeed. Some, with exceptional circumstances do, but it's quite unusual.

As part of a care plan, Family Court can put a GP contact order on it, but it's not the normal thing.

There have been a few campaigns over here for GP "rights", but it's difficult to say whether that's in the best interests of the child or not - fights over contact can sometimes make things worse.

Sad all round really - especially for the children, if it's just a case of parents digging in for no good reason.πŸ™

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DiamondLily Thu 14-Sept-23 15:56:50

Yorkslass23

I am so sorry to hear what you have been going through. . In some ways, I can identify with how you feel. For me, it is my youngest daughter who suddenly stopped returning my phone calls, and no longer calls. We used to do many things together (when I had a partner). We always shared Christmas together, myself, and my middle daughter, who lives with me. I have 2 lovely granddaughters, 9 and 11. I have not seen them in a long, long time. The parents are just 'so busy.' My daughter was always close to me. She would call regularly and talk for a long time. It took a while to figure out, she usually called when she needed advice or had a problem. It took me years to work through my emotions around that. Eventually, I stopped hurting. Every now and then it returns and I feel so abandoned. Is it just that they have no time for us, their lives are so interesting and full. Regardless, I believe it is about respect. Elders deserve it.

Well, as we have apparently have had kids to be such perfect parents (unlike us..πŸ™„), hopefully estrangements/don't care attitude will become a thing of the past.

Hopefully, their kids will show them more respect and consideration.πŸ™‚

pinkprincess Tue 12-Sept-23 21:22:10

Yorkslass Thinking of you flowers

Smileless2012 Tue 12-Sept-23 09:15:52

It's as incomprehensible as it is heartbreaking Yorkslass especially when you were once so close flowers.

Allsorts Tue 12-Sept-23 07:48:48

πŸ’ sorry Yorkslass, it must be painful, I can't see how anyone turns their back on a loving mother but try to think of things you enjoy doing and being with people that appreciate you.

Yorkslass23 Sun 10-Sept-23 23:38:47

I am so sorry to hear what you have been going through. . In some ways, I can identify with how you feel. For me, it is my youngest daughter who suddenly stopped returning my phone calls, and no longer calls. We used to do many things together (when I had a partner). We always shared Christmas together, myself, and my middle daughter, who lives with me. I have 2 lovely granddaughters, 9 and 11. I have not seen them in a long, long time. The parents are just 'so busy.' My daughter was always close to me. She would call regularly and talk for a long time. It took a while to figure out, she usually called when she needed advice or had a problem. It took me years to work through my emotions around that. Eventually, I stopped hurting. Every now and then it returns and I feel so abandoned. Is it just that they have no time for us, their lives are so interesting and full. Regardless, I believe it is about respect. Elders deserve it.

pinkprincess Sat 02-Sept-23 23:46:44

Thanking you all

DiamondLily Sat 02-Sept-23 07:35:13

That is good news. And full credit to her for recognising her part in it, and apologising.πŸ™‚

NotSpaghetti Sat 02-Sept-23 00:42:29

So pleased.
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Smileless2012 Fri 01-Sept-23 22:52:20

That's great pinkprincess and thanks for letting us know.

welbeck Fri 01-Sept-23 22:20:56

well, that's a relief.
well done for no precipitous action.
onwards and upwards.

Hithere Fri 01-Sept-23 22:17:03

So happy for you!

rafichagran Fri 01-Sept-23 22:07:07

A lovely ending.

silverlining48 Fri 01-Sept-23 22:05:14

So pleased for you.

pinkprincess Fri 01-Sept-23 21:57:54

Thankyou very much sunshine

crazyH Fri 01-Sept-23 21:46:01

pinkprincess I am so pleased for you - alls well that ends well πŸ‘

VioletSky Fri 01-Sept-23 21:18:26

I am so happy for you!

pinkprincess Fri 01-Sept-23 20:44:18

Thankyou all again
Yesterday received a text message from my granddaughter apologising for her part and what she said abut me.
I have replied back saying I am sorry about what I said as well
I am overjoyed and looking forward to seeing her again soon
My prayers are answered
Thankyou all again

NotSpaghetti Fri 01-Sept-23 20:28:38

An apology that might regain trust is never a negative - this is certainly my feeling violetsky

I agree that some people find apologising relatively easy, (knowing someone is hurt is enough for me too VS) - but some people do find apologising much, much harder.

We are all different- which is one of the benefits of Gransnet. We get to hear different views and start to understand something of how others think.

VioletSky Fri 01-Sept-23 18:54:44

Ok Smileless

Smileless2012 Fri 01-Sept-23 18:32:46

I didn't need too VS I said what I think, not what anyone or everyone should think. I don't understand your need to argue against my morals and values but you chose too, so I responded accordingly.