Estrangement for celebrities

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Hindsight is an odd thing, but I think Master Brooklyn was well spoiled from the beginning by his mother.

Hiring Chester Zoo when the Beckhams were little, having the public banned for the day and having a private tour and similar events were over the top.

Victoria's mollycoddling of the junior Beckham could only go one way.

Getting bored with his 'career' in photography and then launching him as a chef when all he did was show us how to make a sandwich?

David seems fairly down to earth, still, but it's too late to hold Lady Beckham back.

It takes two to parent. If he was mollycoddled his dad is also responsible.

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I love all the creative writing in this thread.

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The legal expectation of parents is that they be good enough. The Beckhams have certainly been that imo, despite the glare of publicity in which they live their lives (and make their living 🌞)
Brooklyn has benefitted as well as being, he now says made anxious by the family lifestyle. His failed attempts to build a career all funded by brand Beckham. I hope the rest of the family stay quiet and that Brooklyn stops the character assassination of his parents. IMO it says more about him than his parents

His failed attempts to build a career all funded by brand Beckham.
The trouble is, if you've only got the parts to James the Red Engine, you can't build Henry the Helicopter however much money you throw at it.
That's fine, and I don't think the Beckham's expectations in that sense were unrealistic. They did their best there.

We don't know how his latest life all ties in with their carefully mapped out image ideals though, and how much they wanted to handle this for their own benefit?

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The legal expectation of parents is that they be good enough. The Beckhams have certainly been that imo, despite the glare of publicity in which they live their lives (and make their living 🌞)
Brooklyn has benefitted as well as being, he now says made anxious by the family lifestyle. His failed attempts to build a career all funded by brand Beckham. I hope the rest of the family stay quiet and that Brooklyn stops the character assassination of his parents. IMO it says more about him than his parents

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The trouble is, if you've only got the parts to James the Red Engine, you can't build Henry the Helicopter however much money you throw at it.

Sometimes being in the right place at the right time helps, of course, as with Victoria and the formation of the Spice Girls, but David most definitely has a talent which, unfortunately, his son does not seem to have inherited. Most parents will do their best to nurture their children and encourage them to find their path in life but perhaps Brooklyn did not feel the need to strive to earn a living like most young people.

Quite often a parent's place is in the wrong whatever they do.

So true Allira, that softens parents place is on the wrong whatever they do. Blaming parents for difficulties in adult life seems an increasing thing, especially in celeb world .

Brooklyn is 26, married, living independently of his parents. He can afford therapy and it sounds like he’s using it. At what stage does he plan to get on with it

He kind of had to give his side. He didn't sell his story or go running to the papers, he posted them on Instagram.

The amount of articles aimed at him and his wife and his brothers public Instagram posts must get to him.

He mentions future children a few times, she could be pregnant and wanted to take the 'blame' away from her? Or in the future.

A vengeful, immature act by a spoilt couple. True, Beckhams lifestyle and choices questionable, but he was loved and they are his parents. Next humiliation will be a grandchild they won’t see, like Charles.

And like so many of us Allsorts

Smileless, I saw a therapist interviewed yesterday on TV. a Dr (of what i don't know) She had a fringe that she could not see through and attitude; saying everyone has a right to their own truth, love, duty did not matter, you must always have your truth. She had estranged her parents years ago. If thats the sort of therapist young people see I can see how they get influenced. Do these people think parents should make no mistakes and know it all actually exist., that they themselves are above any criticism.Then Kerry Katonas daughter was interviewed what a difference, a grounded beautiful warm person, her mother has constantly been on the front page, after one disaster or another, yet mother and daughter are close and there's so much love there., she did not want all the attention of the media, but she just says oh its just what she is like. She is glad her mother is now happy and settled and does not judge her on her past, knowing she was loved and that none of us are perfect.

It is disconcerting isn't it Allsorts and raises a question of someones impartiality as a therapist when they themselves estranged their parents. It can explain why there have been cases of 'false memory syndrome' and why some parents have believed that there AC hadn't had the issues they're confronting them with until they sought therapy.

As for someone having their own truth, love and duty not mattering well of course that can apply to parents too, especially when they've been estranged.

Kerry Katona is fortunate to have such a loving and mature daughter; a lesson for Brooklyn perhaps.

Kerry was on care throughout her childhood. Her mother neglected her basic physical and emotional needs. Kerry became an advocate, a role model for children in care before (and after) her fame grew.

There have been chaotic periods in her life which have impacted the care of her children. Her relationship with her mum, similarly, her mum not always in the best place. Yet love and affection, commitment

Young Brooklyn and his wife, have no idea of just how hard,I’ve can be.

We don’t know how Brooklyn was affected growing up and how he felt. V and D do now and have lost him. Who knows in future there might be reconciliation, with time and distance.

V and D do now .... do they? He's already been caught out for lying so how can they know if anything else he says is true?

I would think a public apology from Brooklyn would be needed as much if not more than time and distance.

Smileless, my view is Brooklyn has done himself no favours at all. He isn’t the first child of talented, hard working parents to have resented them and blamed them for anything that has gone wrong in his life. Brand Beckham funded his lifestyle, he’s gone short of nothing. His parents love for their children clear to see.
Ok not perfect human beings but neither is he, or his wife and her family. So far the rest of the Beckhams are keeping quiet. DB’s expressed during the discussion on internet access for under 16’s was priceless. (Children make mistakes, that’s life ).

Brooklyn’s family are likely not to want permanent estrangement but if he continues his assaults maybe his boats will be burned

Smileless I have already said that B and N seem a spoilt couple and do not agree with the letter to the press but it seems that all talks had broken down,, I didn't know Brooklyn had been caught out lying. However, children whose family court the media and always on the front page, plus being indulged as well, is not the child's choice but when an adult it is and should be respected. No one knows what conversations were had or the real truth. The trouble is whatever it is D and V love their children and its sad it’s come to this. As someone estranged for many years I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I have had to come to the realisation that I didn't fit in with my daughters life and she is happier without her family.

Someone bemoaning having lived their life in the spotlight looks rather foolish IMO when they then use that same spotlight to trash their parents Allsorts. If all talks have broken down, I don't see what's to be gained by publicly sticking the knife in.

I agree Iam. I don't know if Brooklyn thought doing so would bring him any kudos or sympathy but if he did, it appears to have backfired and he may find bridges burned if not with his parents, but with other family members just like Harry has done.

Time will tell.

Gosh, I’m quite surprised at the lack of concern/understanding by some on here for a young man who has shown this week that he is obviously struggling with life at the moment, but maybe those people have been lucky enough not to suffer or witness any form of emotional trauma or psychological upset in their own lives. None of us have any idea who is in the right or the wrong so maybe we should avoid jumping to any judgmental conclusions about him & his wife, & instead try to be open-minded about what may have driven him to do this. Why not try to be kind & understanding rather than automatically assign blame and judge others because of our own circumstances and experiences? It may well be totally his fault, or maybe it’s theirs & they have been nightmare parents, but the point is that only they know and their situation will be completely different to anyone else’s. I’m sure the entire family are devastated and heartbroken and we should be wishing them all well in their hopes for reconciliation rather than judging them, shouldn’t we?

& instead try to be open-minded about what may have driven him to do this

I think we probably know what has driven Brooklyn to do this.
The same reason Prince Harry, Adam Peaty and many young newly married men do this.

But that’s exactly my point, Allira - we absolutely don’t! Some will be due to insecurities of the young man’s new wife, some will be a mother who was very close to her son and finds it hard that she is now not her son’s number one loyalty, some will be a person who, for one reason or another, needs to be in top control in their relationships, & some will be a million other reasons. Whatever the reason, there will be a background to it, a reason to behave like that, & a failure or refusal to acknowledge or examine that is a recipe for disaster, in my opinion. I am not saying that his behaviour this week has not been reprehensible, it has, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s the only reprehensible person in all this.

Well, for a young man who appears totally talentless in his own right, and lives off of others, it must gall him to see that his mother’s record has gone straight to the top of the charts. 🤷‍♀️

But, his wife seems to have a reputation of quickly dumping people, so if it all goes wrong, I expect he’ll go running back to mum and dad. 🙄