We do exist, but after this why bother?

Yes favourably, but judging by what you see in the media, so am I.

Well after all the virtue signalling talk about looking after the environment etc etc, we now hear that he is using helicopters for journeys that could be done just as well by train and that his wife is hiring, or borrowing private jets for journeys across the Atlantic.

Wouldn't be nice if they did some things that really stand out. We are all being exhorted to wear clothes 30 times before we ditch them. Supposing the 2 Duchesses were seen to wear their public event clothes 30 times, what a lot of money they would save and what a message it would send. Princess Anne manages it, but then she always did put her actions where her mouth is.

What about hearing about all the energy saving equipment and insulation going into Prince Harry's new home in Windsor and new technologies he is including.

“All she[Meghan] needs when they are together is a lead for him[Harry].”

That is a spiteful thing to say about anyone anniebach and the fact that you have no personal knowledge of either of them makes it even worse in my opinion.

I've skipped a lot of this. Yes he was wrong. End of.

janeainsworth the majority watched tv , have thoughts about the person in the news. ‘She is beautiful, he is handsome etc. when i see Harry and Megan together I am reminded of a puppy eager to please his mistress , hence my comment about a lead .

I love the Gransnet forum - it can be fiery, great!

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End of nothing annelp. why should it be just cos you said it?

When Kate wears the same outfit twice she is slated for not supporting the British fashion industry.

Harry is currently enthralled by Meghan and she is using him for her own agenda. It is not a healthy and equal relationship. I am not convinced by her righteousness. He is a means to an end and got her where she wanted to be.

She has no understanding of how royalty have managed to keep their position. Meghan also didn’t realise that they are a way down the pecking order and no matter who she tramples underfoot, that isn’t going to change. Sadly for Harry I fear it is going to end in tears!

the majority watched tv , have thoughts about the person in the news. ‘She is beautiful, he is handsome etc. when i see Harry and Megan together I am reminded of a puppy eager to please his mistress , hence my comment about a lead
Watching TV doesn’t give anyone the right to make unsubstantiated and mean-spirited comments about other people, whoever they are.
Perhaps you should keep your thoughts to yourself anniebach as expressing them often says more about you than anyone else.

I think the spending on clothes is very unpleasant.

My only complaint, which takes us back to the original speech is that if you are going to talk the talk then you need to be seen to be walking the walk - and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, do an awful lot of virtue-signalling talk. I can see no sign that they do any walking at all - especially when there is a helicopter or private jet ready for them.

Harry is a privileged member of the upper classes deflecting criticism by aiming it at another group in society, in this case the older generation who made the prosperity, stability and security that we all enjoy now. He also had a lecture for others about living in a ‘green’ way shortly before spending thousands on a private helicopter flight.

Not that I care. He seems to be a nice chap. However, I really object to virtue signallers telling others what to think and how to live. Harry’s grandmother, with her gnomic silence on every issue, seems to have the right idea.

However, I really object to virtue signallers telling others what to think and how to live
Hear hear, Lilyflower

I think the spending on clothes is very unpleasant.
I'm not sure if you mean the actual spending or the media obsession with it Lily65
I suppose one could say that they are supporting the British fashion industry (well, I hope the clothes are British).

He is addressing the older generation who supported Brixet and support people like Trump, who does not believe in global warming.

Why is it Harry and Meghan who get all the criticisms?

The royal family aren't renowned for their sparkling repartee or insightful speeches. Neither are they known for their careful use of resources.

I am not a fan of royalty and would prefer a republic but I don't like the unpleasantness that seems to continually be aimed at Meghan and Harry. I don't think they are the first to fly in a jet or helicopter.

Perhaps it was rather undiplomatic of him to imply that
all older people might be perceived as uncaring but I don't think the remark is excessively offensive. There have been many very unkind comments made about young people on Gransnet - they are spendthrift, lazy, entitled, "snowflakes", etc, etc. Not everybody has expressed that opinion, of course, but to those who have , I would say "If you can't take it, don't dish it out."

Eloethan you’ve just written what I’ve been composing in my head!

wee bit different saying it on GN and making aspeech that will be heard worldwide I would think .I'll happily criticise them all one at a time if you like eleothan .I have no problem with thinking they are a waste of good air and should be shown the door when Lizzie pops her clogs .Hereditary monarchies should have been left in medieval times where they belong alone with knights and lords etc etc etc .All of which are there just so some can act superior and be treated as such by the very people who pay for their overprivileged lifestyles

Paddyann
Hereditary monarchies should have been left in medieval times where they belong alone with knights and lords etc etc etc
I agree!

Except that a lot of the older generation didn't vote for Brexit and object to being tarred by the Brexit brush.

I am particularly gutted because I was hoping for a full union one day like the USA. I rather liked the idea of being part of a great world power, to match America.

Fair comnent Eloethan

Get rid of the monarch, knighthoods etc and we will free of poverty

I think it is counter-productive to personalise the issue. It is the institution I despise, not the people, though I suspect they feel absolutely comfortable with their privileged lifestyle and so would not be the sort of people with whom I'd have much in common.

However, calling anyone a "waste of air" is, in my opinion, rather chilling and akin to saying they, as people, have no right to exist.

The sort of snobbery and, I believe, racism that has been aimed at this couple should, I think, be challenged, whether you agree with their royal status or not because it reinforces and legitimises the same sort of attitudes that are found in wider society.

Bringing racism into this is daft