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Everyday Ageism

For once it was nice to be invisible.

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merlotgran Sun 21-Jul-19 12:28:45

As I mentioned on another thread, I've just done a speed awareness course. Everyone assured me it would be fine, interesting and informative etc., and they were right.

But.....I was the oldest one there by quite a long chalk. We sat at round tables and there were six men and one very glamorous young women on mine. We introduced ourselves but nobody actually spoke to me. When we took part in group discussions, the men barged in first with their opinions then turned to Miss Fancy Pants and asked, 'What do you think?' hmm

I just left them to it. It wasn't a competition or a test so there was nothing for me to gain by joining in. I'd had an early start, they didn't even give you a complimentary coffee so I couldn't be arsedbothered to comment apart from the moment when one of the men demonstrated the hand clap he likes to do when annoyed by another driver. I pointed out he would have to take both hands off the wheel to do that!

His withering glance confirmed he thought I was just some old duck who shouldn't even be on the road.

He was happy to boast it was his third course though. He looked about thirty!!

grin grin

PamGeo Fri 26-Jul-19 16:19:54

Thank you

annep1 Thu 25-Jul-19 18:42:50

Your grump was completely understandable!

PamGeo Thu 25-Jul-19 15:02:23

Thanks annepl, I hate being grumpy but sometimes it's just too much chewing to bite my lip grin

nice to see you smiling Bbbface

Bbbface Thu 25-Jul-19 08:49:27

grin

annep1 Wed 24-Jul-19 18:30:27

Nothing to do with the post PamGeo but sorry about your pain. It does make one grumpy- living with pain!

PamGeo Wed 24-Jul-19 15:18:43

Bbface , you sound as though you just fancy a row any squabble will do just so long as you can provoke someone. If something in particular is making you unhappy and disagreeable then please post and ask for advice or just rant and get it off your chest.
Why read a post and completely mis-read the contents? why read the comments and mis-read them.? I don't know, but I'm sorry you are feeling so aggrieved and niggly about everything said.
This isn't my post, it isn't anything to do with me except it caught my eye as I too have had moments of being unnoticed and I've put it down to being slightly older and plumper than I use to be .... actually, A LOT plumper and older ... I just find some comments on GN to be unkind and unnecessary occasionally , I usually ignore them as others often address this but today I'm in pain and less even tempered.

merlotgran Wed 24-Jul-19 15:17:14

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Bbbface Wed 24-Jul-19 14:07:29

Unbelievable to be indignant in this scenario. You exceeded the speed Limit by at least 10%

I for one am bloody pleased that tea and coffee wasn’t available! Bring your own if so important to you!grin

merlotgran Wed 24-Jul-19 13:23:27

she wasn’t served tea or coffee!

I wasn't expected to be served anything.

Quite capable of helping myself.

MissAdventure Wed 24-Jul-19 13:05:05

Even prisoners get a cup of tea..

Bbbface Wed 24-Jul-19 12:16:57

OP

So you weren’t caught speeding.
You just decided to sign up and pay for a speed awareness course. For £100? confused

Bbbface Wed 24-Jul-19 12:15:08

@tiger

It absolutely is a punishment

Your dh was caught speeding. His punishment was awareness course and / or fine.

And the fact your dh got a cup of tea doesn’t mean that the OP was right to be indignant that she wasn’t served tea or coffee!

Margs Tue 23-Jul-19 11:19:14

I've quite got to like being an invisible old biddy since it dawned on me that I can practice in-depth observation of other people's foibles and twattishness practically without the risk of censure because my age renders me - quite literally - beneath their notice.

I like that.

Pantglas1 Tue 23-Jul-19 07:41:03

Posters experiences in car showrooms made me smile. Many years ago, I decided to buy a black Fiat punto and the salesman kept pushing a red one at a reduced price to my DH, saying there was a long waiting list for a black one.

I left him my number telling him I was in no hurry and he promptly rang twice a week for a month trying to push every colour under the sun my way, to no avail. In desperation he rang my husband to tell him what an unreasonable woman I was! I did eventually get my black punto six weeks later but the salesman was nowhere on the scene- DH thinks I drove him mad!

Ohmother Tue 23-Jul-19 07:26:32

I went to a motorbike display room with my OH yesterday. My husband went ahead and was greeted by one of two salesmen with a cheery “Good morning sir. Lovely weather!”

I followed and was TOTALLY ignored by both salesmen even though I was looking and trying to catch their eye. I bet if I’d tried to get a leg over one of the bikes they’d have took notice!

I don’t think this has anything to do with my age but being a ‘mere’ female. ( I am assertive and could have spoken up but I found this amusing)

fiorentina51 Mon 22-Jul-19 23:07:08

I had the opposite experience. DH and I went to look at a new car for him. Salesman greeted us both and after a few minutes, directed his comments to me. DH sat smiling sweetly as I answered a couple of questions. When the salesman asked my opinion as to petrol or diesel engines, I shrugged my shoulders and told him to ask the man paying the bill.
DH, a skilled engineering buyer who loves a bargain then proceeded to hammer out a deal. Took a while but he got what he wanted. ?

Dollygloss Mon 22-Jul-19 19:56:45

I admire your backbone HurdyGurdy. When I bought my new car they sent the details out in partners name, even though I had given my name & address which differs from his name & address. We have separate houses, separate finances. I had them correct it but only in a jokey way that made them feel uncomfortable.

HurdyGurdy Mon 22-Jul-19 18:10:08

Husband and I went into a car showroom to look for a new car for me.

The young salesman came up to us, greeted my husband, and invited him to come and see the range of cars.

I stood still and didn't follow them, then looked at his fellow salesman who looked very uncomfortable and said "well that's just cost him a shed load of commission" and walked out to the showroom and got in my car and drove home, leaving husband to make his own way home.

I was as furious with husband for going along with the salesman as I was with the sexist salesman

Dollygloss Mon 22-Jul-19 17:42:51

In my case invisibility has reached new lows. Twice I have asked questions of male assistants. In one case about dash cams and the other about a new model of car. In both cases the young man turned to my partner who was standing beside me and directed his answers to him! It seems that if I am within a few feet of a man I disappear. Interestingly though when Im visiting my daughter in Paris I am usually made feel like the woman I am, and it seems to apply to all the other older ladies around....I've made a point of observing from a my seat outside one of the many cafes there. I often head home recharged.

SparklyGrandma Mon 22-Jul-19 17:07:51

merlotgran Wassa scribe? many lols!

4allweknow Mon 22-Jul-19 16:59:21

What is the point of a speed awareness course if after the first one the motorists end up going to another then another. How many are allowed before some effective sanction is imposed ie loss of license. Or, is it another money making scheme for some obscure government department. The driving standards on UK roads is rapidly deteriorating. Have driven on many European roads that I thought had poor safety standards (Portugal was the worst) in my estimation but UK is now top of the league for bad driving. That aside, haven't really experienced the 'invisible' effect yet when in a group even with those a good bit younger. Perhaps just luck or I have just switched off and never noticed.

ginny Mon 22-Jul-19 14:11:46

Views not vows.

ginny Mon 22-Jul-19 14:11:20

Surely if you are going to sit and say nothing then people will think you have nothing g to say and no vows of your own. Hence, they don’t bother to speak to you.

sarahellenwhitney Mon 22-Jul-19 14:06:49

I recall once being informed by the function organiser on arriving at a retirement function for one of H colleagues that I was to ' join ? the rest of the ladies' who were sitting in another side of the room, as obedient spouses grin do while husbands were around the bar.
I politely informed him that my day/s were spent amongst ladies ' and no disrespect' and if not a problem then I would join the men at the bar.Silence was golden.

Happiyogi Mon 22-Jul-19 14:02:53

Sounds like it has the makings of a sitcom!grin