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Patronised!

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Scribbles Thu 20-Jan-22 15:20:38

The culprit intended to be helpful but it has left a sour taste in my mouth.

I am away from home at present and while I was out this morning, I saw a pair of shoes. I wanted in a store display. They didn't have my size but the saleswoman (approximately mid 20s, I'd guess) checked to see if any were available in the central warehouse that could be sent to my local branch of the shop for me to collect.

There were none in stock but more are expected soon. So far so good. This helpful lass then wrote down the product ID number "so that you can ask your local shop staff to check when they come into stock". She then added the store's website details, adding, "That's so, if you know someone with access to the internet, you could ask them to check for you if they're available."

In an instant, all the goodwill generated by her general helpfulness evaporated. I hope I withered her with my glare.
"Why would I do that?" I replied. "I am perfectly capable of doing it myself with my phone or any one of a half dozen other devices that I've been able to operate quite competently since before you were born."

I picked up the paper with the product number on it and walked out. I know it's a first world problem but it rankles - and I don't think I even want the shoes now.

geekesse Thu 20-Jan-22 21:14:55

The problem is that there are some older people who doggedly refuse to engage with current technology, and they give the rest of us a reputation for incompetence. It annoys me - it was our generation who invented the internet!

Notinthemanual Thu 20-Jan-22 21:14:35

I doubt I would've thought of it at the time but in that position I'd like to have been quick enough to say, "Aw, the internet isn't that difficult. You should give it a try sometime.'

Nonogran Thu 20-Jan-22 21:09:32

I agree with Chestnut, today at 1645.
Give the girl a break. She sounds lovely albeit she was a bit tactless.

Chardy Thu 20-Jan-22 20:54:34

A smile and a thank you just means she'll say the same thing again to someone else!
Imo it's the manager's job to make sure the sales assistant doesn't patronise the customers.

denbylover Thu 20-Jan-22 20:09:35

Agree wholeheartedly with Allsorts. I’d have simply smiled and said thank you. Life’s too short to take offence where I believe none was intended.

Baggs Thu 20-Jan-22 20:00:59

M0nica

Maybe70 'Oh bless', drives me nuts too.

Nobody has ever said it to me. I'm beginning to feel left out. Not!

I don't remember ever feeling patronised either. I have, on occasion, thought that someone was being a patronising eejit but that was easily dismissable as their problem rather than mine. Is it patronising to mentally dismiss a patroniser as an eejit?

M0nica Thu 20-Jan-22 18:56:12

Maybe70 'Oh bless', drives me nuts too.

Callistemon21 Thu 20-Jan-22 18:12:26

MayBeMaw

Callistemon21

Help, this elderly numpty needs help!

I used ^^ around my quote, without spaces, but it didn't work ?

^but it didn't work^

Perhaps you might know somebody who can explain it to you dear

? ? ? behind ? ???

Anyone? Anyone?
Please ?

Callistemon21 Thu 20-Jan-22 18:11:06

I would have found it amusing
I might have laughed too.

But I do realise that today's youngsters invented the wheel!

How simple to ask if a customer has access to the internet via her phone or a laptop (well occasionally in the deepest depths of the country coverage can be patchy) and take it from there.
That seems very sensible, MayBeMaw

At one time standing on the garden gate, balanced precariously, arm held above head, was the best place to get a reception here!

Chin up, Scribbles, I bet you wish you'd never posted.

Josieann Thu 20-Jan-22 18:10:42

Maybe in the past she had had a string of more mature customers who confessed to not being computer savvy, so she just thought you would be the same.

rafichagran Thu 20-Jan-22 18:08:09

MimsinMaine

Screw her. I personally think that being condescended to is poor customer service. I think you were absolutely right to leave. A call to the store manager wouldn't be a bad idea, either.

What a vile post, aggressive in the extreme. The young assistant was trying to be helpful, a better response would have been it's ok I can do it myself. Screw her what a way to talk. Very immature, stupid and unreasonable. Grow up.

MayBeMaw Thu 20-Jan-22 18:04:40

Callistemon21

Help, this elderly numpty needs help!

I used ^^ around my quote, without spaces, but it didn't work ?

^but it didn't work^

Perhaps you might know somebody who can explain it to you dear

? ? ? behind ? ???

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 18:02:23

I’m always pleased if someone is helpful and would never discourage them by being rude even if I don’t need the advice offered. Kindness is a rare thing in this world. I never use the word ‘patronising’ and have never considered myself patronised by kind and well-meant words. If someone called me ‘dear’ it would please me. It’s a sign of kindliness. Some people are so prickly.

Kittye Thu 20-Jan-22 17:58:55

Poor girl! She was only trying to be helpful. The younger generation think us oldies are incapable of using technology. Maybe they are right to a certain degree in my case. I would have found it amusing ?

Serendipity22 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:58:33

Hmmmm, ok, so if that was me, I wouldnt care less, i would view it in a positive way opposed to a negative way, positive being that the girl was being very helpful and i would make a joke out of what she said and we would both stand in the shop laughing, BUT thats me, see the bright and positivity side always...

Kali2 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:58:12

And next time, what will she do? What a pity.

Kali2 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:57:14

They just can't win, hey. She probabybly has an auntie or a Gran who does not have the internet or a modern phone- and was trying her best to help. Honestly, why be so cutting and unpleasant!?!

I would have smiled and laughed, and said something like 'thanks for being so helpful, but I'm not THAT old and I do use a computer daily, lol and winked. Why get all mardy about it!

Delila Thu 20-Jan-22 17:50:57

It sounds as though she was being helpful, trying not to assume you had computer access, not patronising.

nadateturbe Thu 20-Jan-22 17:37:50

I'm with you Scribbles. An assistant in M&S recently when explaining offers, asked would I know how to download their App. I replied rudely too on the spur of the moment. But really, staff should be trained better.
At least we will have made them think.

Luckygirl3 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:33:46

It is a shame that this ruffled your feathers after she had been so helpful. I usually assume that people are trying to be kind and well-meaning as a starting point. It is clear that this young lady was trying to help and her unfortunate comment may reflect her family experience of older relatives using the internet.

Maybe you could just have said that you were computer literate and thanked her for her help rather than putting her down when she had gone out of her way to help you.

Doodledog Thu 20-Jan-22 17:30:08

janeainsworth

Doodledog I think we all accept that the OP felt patronised, and no-one has said she shouldn’t have felt that way, or ‘invalidated her feelings’ as you put it.

What we are taking issue with is her reaction to feeling patronised.

If you think someone is patronising you, you have the choice of feeling upset, and responding unkindly or even rudely, or you can get your sense of humour out, see the funny side and rise above it.

You are right about the reaction being the important thing, but comments like ‘lighten up’ or ‘ you should have . . .’ are, IMO, invalidating.

Scribbles feels chastened, when she probably just wanted a bit of support. We all react differently to things, and I feel quite hurt when I am treated as though I am ‘past it’, and whether others would laugh it off isn’t really the point for me.

Callistemon21 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:24:07

Scribbles don't fret over it.

Perhaps if it had been said jokingly it might have been better smile but neither you nor she will probably say that again!

janeainsworth Thu 20-Jan-22 17:17:05

Scribbles flowers

Sara1954 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:10:46

Over reaction in my opinion, she may have been a little tactless, but she was trying to be helpful.
Not particularly clever to be rude to someone who has gone the extra mile for you.

Daisend1 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:10:39

How simple can it be to inform a customer 'this can be obtained on xxxxxx
Don't make assumptions they have / do not have the internet or even worse shock know how to use it.?.