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flowerfriend Tue 13-Mar-12 20:29:33

I dont have a problem with vegetarianism - I have a son who has been a veggie for 15 years. I try to make innovative meals for him. Not every time that he eats with me but fairly often. I often share what I cook for him with a friend who has been veggie for 20 years. She is delighted with whatever it is. This is all background to what I am wanting to air.
She doesnt believe in visiting the doctor unless she falls under a bus or gets mauled by a tiger. SO.....a great deal of her reading is about keeping healthy without the aid of drugs or surgery. Not so bad you may say but some of the things drive me potty. She thinks that I am doing myself dreadful harm by drinking black tea and that I should only drink green tea. I drink one cup of tea maybe five times a week. I dont want to bore with a list of like things but her sister says that all this pontificating makes her want to go out and eat something truly BAD. Can I say to her that I appreciate that she has her own ideas about healthy living and that I have mine and can we keep them to ourselves.

Oasis09 Mon 18-Jun-12 12:39:39

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Oasis09 Mon 18-Jun-12 12:34:42

Why not, for sure you must say to her this stuff.

flowerfriend Sat 17-Mar-12 20:02:43

jeni Congratulations on judge education. I do french friends education. They nearly all provide gin and tonic. Bless her heart even Greentea friend. So maybe I shouldnt have complained about her. Just had the proverbial belly-full the other day.

jeni Sat 17-Mar-12 19:54:07

Can't do without my caffeine fix. The first thing I do with new judges is tell them how to make the coffee. The Bristol boss judge my friend, says I have them all well trainedgrin

Grossi Sat 17-Mar-12 19:27:43

Flowerfriend, I am another doctor-avoiding vegetarian. But I would think it rude to tell advise my friends what to eat or drink.

I don't especially like green tea, and shock shock, horror, I drink two cups of caffeine-filled coffee every morning brew!

Stansgran Sat 17-Mar-12 18:44:20

I sympathise with the Pringle glutton. For me it's marmite rice cakes-once open I'm lost-especially with Holy Cow cottage cheese. Too old to be pregnant.

nanachrissy Thu 15-Mar-12 17:09:27

Yes, annoyingly I have to buy special milks and bread and they are much more expensive. hmm

JessM Thu 15-Mar-12 14:35:47

So true B. Even within this country some of us can afford much better quality food than others.

bagitha Thu 15-Mar-12 14:34:18

I've a feeling that if I were hit by a bus I wouldn't be going anywhere.

What I eat affects me too. It stops me feeling hungry and supplies me with the nutrients I need.

We are lucky to have so much choice about what we eat. Many people don't.

flowerfriend Thu 15-Mar-12 13:48:19

I meant Green Tea friend smoked the cigars. I have never smoked in my life. I am not gloating. Three sons did but now dont. I pray it stays that way.

I consume very small amounts of red meat and mainly eat chicken and fish as so many GNs seem to do. I also try to be careful about the source of my eggs and chickens and abhor battery farming with a vengeance.

More of us are health conscious these days but I dont want to be preached at by a friend or by the government.

nightowl Wed 14-Mar-12 23:48:02

Faye I totally agree with your post, I am also vegetarian (only 42 years in my case) and I agree it was very difficult to find anything to eat in those days. My poor mum (down to earth Yorkshire woman from the meat and two veg boiled slowly for at least a week school) almost had apoplexy when I announced my intentions and she continued to feed me on the two veg without the meat. I can't blame her - I could have taken more of an interest in learning to cook for myself.

I agree that a vegetarian diet is not necessarily healthy and I do have a sweet tooth and enjoy my share of rubbish food at times. I am passionate about vegetarianism, for animal welfare reasons, and I sometimes have to hold back from becoming a bit 'preachy'. Not only is it boring, but none of us can take the moral high ground; it's just a case of where to draw one's own personal line.

flowerfriend Wed 14-Mar-12 19:54:06

JessM. Not cigarettes but cigars and only to relieve the stress.

JessM Wed 14-Mar-12 19:47:16

That is not much of an endorsement jeni but I am sure you know your own medical conditions better than they do.
A large packet of Pringles all on her own in one day [shock[ [yuk]
Those things are specially engineered to make you want another one. i am not joking their R and D departments are very proud of them. If you look at what a recommended serving is, it is probably about 4.
Is this the green tea evangelist ????
I used to work for someone who was into meditation, rice cakes and camomile tea. And cigarettes.

Faye Wed 14-Mar-12 19:45:25

If I do get hit by a bus ie lump I guess I would go and see a doctor. I worry more about my esophagus than anything else. What I eat really affects me, I had a roast last night, no meat of course, but eating broccoli with white sauce and also yorkshire pudding made me feel as though someone had their had in my chest and was squeezing really hard. I could barely swallow, but eating the vegetables didn't bother me at all. If I eat certain foods I am fine and feel great, but if I eat something made from white flour etc it feels like the bus is already running me over. I have to avoid certain foods and just eat healthy foods.

flowerfriend Wed 14-Mar-12 19:36:54

Half-brother is a GP and is quite capable of coming out with a lot of pontificating p..h but it never seems to have a great deal to do with what he actually consumes. Dear Friend and I went on a jaunt today. She showing me her beautiful French countryside and admitting on our way back from said jaunt that she had consumed a whole packet of Pringles - not the mini one but FULL LARGE PACKET - between our shopping town and our village yesterday in less than twenty minutes. If only I had had pen and paper with me I would have extracted a signature against the next time I get a lecture.

By the way. My personal NAUGHTY is a/two large Gin and Tonic/s.

jeni Wed 14-Mar-12 19:21:09

I don't go to the doctor either. I stay healthier without them! They try to treat me, which makes me worse!

wotsamashedupjingl Wed 14-Mar-12 18:56:46

Well, if the bus gets you............

Sorry!

JessM Wed 14-Mar-12 18:48:47

Ow! Hope it mended ok.

There is a place for doctors, even if they are not all perfect. They have many lifesaving treatments and procedures at their disposal. Breast lumps for instance best shared with the doc rather than kept to oneself until bus gets you.

Faye Wed 14-Mar-12 18:32:33

I have to say it works both ways flowerfriend I drink green tea and am a vegetarian. I have only been drinking green tea for a couple of years, I just didn't take to it before that and I really don't care what other people drink.

I have been a vegetarian for 46 years now. The times I have had lectures from people telling me I wouldn't get enough iron/protein blah blah blah blah. I was once asked by my daughter's teacher if I was one of those nutty vegetarians. confused Each Christmas my brother offered me ham with my Christmas lunch, this went on for over 40 years, every Christmas without fail. The amount of times I have been out for a meal in a restaurant and find there is not much for me to choose from, some people seem to think you have to add meat to everything. Imagine what it was like to eat out over forty years ago. It is often people's assumptions of what vegetarians eat. Vegetarians might not eat meat but it doesn't mean their diet is always healthy either, some people just do not like to eat meat. The food your friend eats may affect her so maybe it is on her mind and she probably wants to avoid getting sick, so eats healthily.

I also will not go to a doctor unless hit by a bus. The one and only time I had to go to a hospital in an emergency situation because I had snapped my arm bone off from the joint, the doctor thought I had dislocated my arm and told me they would give me more pain killers and pop it back for me. confused

jeni Wed 14-Mar-12 18:12:34

Fine!smile

dahlia Wed 14-Mar-12 17:54:44

I, too, listened to that programme on Radio 4. However, have to say that taking glucosamine supplement has helped enormously with my arthritis, and even reduced the pins and needles from carpal tunnel syndrome. Not all supplements do the trick, but I have really noticed the difference since starting a new combination about six months ago. So what if it's all in the mind - if I feel better, then it works for me!

JessM Wed 14-Mar-12 17:24:29

eeets amazing how they get us to buy all these potions.

jeni Wed 14-Mar-12 16:51:46

JessM yes it was also included as having no clinical response!

bagitha Wed 14-Mar-12 16:49:31

I now ignore all "healthy" eating advice and just carry on being omnivorous and completely moderate in all things! wink

JessM Wed 14-Mar-12 16:45:00

I think the same applies to glucosamine - good quality research does not find positive effects according to cochrane. And i think they were looking at prescribed dosages rather than self medicated over the counter.