We grow a lot of our own fruit and veg. too, but find it involves a lot of physical work which we are increasingly less able to do. And I think perhaps we get more plant pests and diseases here (SW France) than in the UK. eg last year hundreds of colorado beetles, only 2 this year, plus wireworm infestation.
We have potatoes, and tomatoes, which I've just discovered have been attacked by mildew. it's been very warm and damp here recently.
So we should really dig them all up, but it's so hot out there!
On the other hand, homegrown veg. have so much more flavour, and no insecticides or herbicides.
Our favourites and most successful are onions, various kinds.
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(143 Posts)How do you store your potatoes grannyactivist? We keep ours in proper potato sacks in a cool, dry room, but they still start to sprout after six months. Obviously we freeze them in curries, soups and so, but haven't managed to keep them in a raw state for a year.
Am impressed that you manage to finish all last year's frozen food. OH took the umpteenth load of beans down the other day and then found some of last years at the bottom of the freezer. More curry...
OH strings and hangs the garlic, shallots and onions (thank heavens for YouTube) and we also dry quite a lot of beans like borlotti.
Too far for me to come for a cucumber, granny - ours did not even germinate this year although we usually have some.
I have made cucumber soup in the past, nicer than it sounds and nice chilled!
Lots of Gnetters producing their own food by the sounds of it which is wonderful.
However, judging by the lack of 'swaps' where we live I think that fewer of our neighbours are growing anything edible.
I have three freezers full of home grown food and finished last year's fruit and veg just as the first of this year's produce came through. Green beans, mange tout, cabbage, leeks, beetroot, turnips, onions, garlic and potatoes are all able to keep well. Tomatoes and courgettes, though more seasonal, are chopped up and frozen to add to soups and casseroles.
I buy very little food at the supermarkets. At the moment I have a real glut of (delicious) cucumbers and I literally can't give them away. I've had them on a table at my front gate with a sign saying 'free cucumber - help yourself', but so far only about twelve have been taken.
Courgette glut here too! Even with 30 raised beds and winter crops we are not completely self-sufficient. We make a lot of soups and vegetable dishes like curry, ratatouille and minestrone, but we run out of spuds after Christmas and we buy avocados, apples, oranges, tomatoes and frozen peas in winter. The thing is though, that if everyone grows what they can, it will make a difference. Everybody can do something.
We have to stop frivolously wasting the world's resources.
We have grown more this year and seem to have better crops. (Courgettes, anyone?)
It would not be enough to keep us going through the winter though, apart from the soft fruits.
I think we do take our food ver much for granted; the sheer volume on our supermarket shelves is astounding, and we have become accustomed to have vegetables and fruit 'out of season' because they have travelled thousands of miles to reach us.
I remember going to one European country years ago where food was quite scarce; if you did not buy food for lunch first thing in the morning there was nothing much left in the local shop by 11 am but, there were roadside stalls selling delicious local fruit.
I agree that we should be encouraging and supporting farmers. We are surrounded by small dairy farms and the price they get for milk is ridiculously low. They went on strike a couple of years ago and people supported them by boycotting the dairy shelves. Some supermarkets agreed (not sure how that worked) and gave stuff away for free.
I have never seen discounted misshapen veg in our bit of France though. Our supermarkets sell grotty old wrinkled and mouldy veg at full price, so you have to pick it over. Another incentive to grow you own!
Veg growing can be a bit expensive at first but we save seed and share seedlings in our village.
I don't understand why anyone buys bags of salad in summer when a few plants of cut and come again salad leaves in a grow bag are so easy. My DD works full time and has a tiny garden, but they grow lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber and early potatoes in containers.
In my experience allotments were always full of wiry folk in their eighties enjoying their gardening. Got to be cheaper and healthier than a gym membership!
Good post, Mamie.
We could also stop the destruction of perfectly edible, tasty fruit and vegetables which are not 'pretty' or 'perfect' enough to grace our supermarket shelves. A disgraceful waste of tons of good food. Apparently in France the supermarkets sell this at a reduced price, and I believe Waitrose is trying to do this (although I have seen no evidence of this in our local store). This would also encourage families to buy healthy produce which they claim they cannot afford at present.
I was not thinking of what we should or should not be eating (eg the less meat agenda), more that we should be encouraging and helping our own farmers to produce more food in this country for home consumption rather than having what I believe is about 40% brought from elsewhere.
I do think we pay a ridiculously low price for milk in this country - before anyone protests and says that poor families can't afford to pay more then I would say I am not suggesting doubling the price, just a few pence more per pint to give the dairy farmers a reasonable income.
I recall last winter and the attitude of some in the media, people I spoke to and I believe the agenda of the EA over years who were of the opinion that the Somerset levels should be left to disappear and that it was more important to save areas like the Thames Valley ( which of course must be saved!). But what many people fail to grasp is that the Somerset Levels is a food producing area - food does not appear on supermarket shelves by magic. It takes enterprise, expertise and sheer hard work and we should be supporting farmers. We should be encouraging the next generation who may be thinking that farming as a career is like being on a hiding to nothing. Many of our County farms which would give young people a start in agriculture are disappearing.
The population is growing and so should our farming industry to keep pace.
I think people have become very lazy. It's too convenient to buy veg from the supermarket and growing your own can be expensive and time consuming.
I'm trying to encourage DD and her boys to take an interest in growing veg but no luck so far. When they moved here I had visions of growing for the five of us with everyone tucking into healthy meals. Sunday lunch is often a winner but I wonder what they live on the rest of the week!!
Young people have got to rise to the challenge if we're going to produce more of our own food. It's hard, physical work and then there's the marketing. With the best will in the world I could not manage a stall at a farmers market.
That is brilliant news about the award.
I agree about the dilemma of the vegetables from Africa. I really don't know what the answer is to that. Here in France our range of vegetables is far more limited and local. Our neighbours still sell really shrivelled apples from the previous autumn on their market stalls right through the spring.
When you think how people managed to grow so much during the war it seems a terrible shame not to do it now. I know the demand for allotments is still high in the UK though.
...'have' bought, not 'gave'.
Mamie I agree with you 100%. And further, my husband took up gardening whilst recovering from a heart attack and because we didn't have the space for a veg garden, he simply started guerrilla gardening outside our front gate and expanded his garden over time.
This year we have successful crops of potatoes, tomatoes, onions, beans, beetroot, aubergine and carrots. No wonder he won an award a couple of weeks ago
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On another note, when I do use a pack of supermarket veg that I gave bought "2 for £3" and it comes from, say Kenya, I find myself thinking of the person who picked those to support their family.
We are extremely spoilt in the UK.
It would help if people grew their own more. Most gardens, however small, used to have a vegetable patch, but not many do now. It is far easier now to get compact greenhouses, raised beds and structures for growing fruit that will fit in really small spaces. You can certainly grow your own mediterranean veg in the UK (our aubergines used to do better in Sheffield than they do here in Northern France). Put pressure on councils to keep allotments open and campaign for new ones.
I was reading a thread on a forum the other day when people were asking what exercise equipment they could install and use in their garden. Why on earth would you not use the space to grow food and get the exercise at the same time?
I said it was about meat because the top link was from the meatsite.com from the NFU.
I think it would be difficult in this country to get the sort of diet that many of us eat. No mediterranean veg, for a start, no rice, coffee, tea, etc.
In countries where most of the produce is being exported, it's not because they have surplus food. It's usually places where the farming population do not have enough to eat because international conglomerates own the rights to the food. That cannot be right.
I agree Annaries but it's not just about meat. The people in some countries eat very little meat but they do need basic foodstuffs like rice, fruit and vegetables and if most of the product is being exported, that creates a shortage and higher prices at home.
Yes, well, it's about meat, isn't it? Stop eating so much meat, stop feeding animals first, then eating them, and stop wasting so much food.
I think the situation where countries are routinely importing goods from half way across the world is ridiculous. It's nice to have tropical fruit and vegetables but it makes more sense to live on what we can produce ourselves.
People in the developing world are often working for a pittance while the owners of the farms/orchards, etc., are making huge amounts of money with which they purchase luxury goods.
I learned when visiting Mauritius that foods that had formerly been available at a reasonable price to local people were now being exported because they yielded a much higher profit when sold overseas - and only the very rich people in Mauritius were able to afford them. This seems to be replicated throughout the world.
If the UK did not import a large percentage of our food we would not be able to feed ourselves beyond today:
www.themeatsite.com/meatnews/25401/farming-growth-plan-needed-to-reverse-declining-selfsufficiency
www.theguardian.com/environment/live/2014/aug/07/should-the-uk-feed-itself-farming-self-sufficiency
Are we too reliant on imports?
Is it time to start looking after our farmers and our agricultural industry better so that we become more self-sufficient in food production? Apparently we are producing less food than we did 20 years ago.
Australia produces more food than it consumes as do America and France, but apparently the UK needs to import a large proportion of food - and would run out of food today if we relied solely on home-produced food.
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