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BBC The truth about healthy eating

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MargaretX Fri 03-Jun-16 10:12:28

I watched this last night and it was amost refreshing programm in which all the super foods and smoothies and vitamins etc were shown to have no effect whatsoever.
The body regulates everything itself. Even bacon and egg is the best breakfast and keeps you feeling full for hours Which everyone knows from the days they spend in hotels and have breakfast there.
Apparently it is not even unhealthy as fried egg does not absorb fat.
I never did believe the nonsense told us on Tv from white coated experts but liked to hear that I was right.
The down side is that too many people spend too much money on things which are useless.

Jalima Sat 11-Jun-16 21:09:28

although it may be going on to my hips and tummy quickly rather than through.

Jalima Sat 11-Jun-16 21:08:57

I think it is the processing of margarine that some say cause the problem.
It may not be the case nowadays, but it used to be 'hydrogenated' and that caused trans fats to develop.

Anything seems to pass through my gut quickly, I am usually hungry.

Gracesgran Sat 11-Jun-16 20:45:23

I did wonder Jalima but I really meant quick and slow to prepare.

Jalima Sat 11-Jun-16 20:33:22

Is slow food slow to digest?
and fast food goes through the gut quickly?

Jalima Sat 11-Jun-16 20:31:26

catch-up!

Jalima Sat 11-Jun-16 20:31:08

I missed this programme, must try to watch it on cath-up, it sounds very interesting.

I quite like cod liver oil (not the capsules, they seem to upset me, must be the gelatine rather than the oil).
And I didn't know about fried eggs not absorbing fat (must be dim) although I did know that sausages grilled contained the same number of calories as sausages fried. I do prefer scrambled eggs though.

I'm glad to hear about the calcium in almond milk, as DD drinks that instead of cow's milk.

I used to love that orange juice and cod liver oil + malt.

Gracesgran Sat 11-Jun-16 20:14:47

Quick as in toast and sandwiches JbF - sorry that wasn't very obvious was itsmile

Yes jingl I do. Oatcakes are lovely and I am sure I will get over the smell of bread in the supermarket wink It is a low FODMAP diet (FODMAPs stands for Fermentable, Oligo-, Di-, Mono-saccharides and PolyolS. They comprise fructose, lactose, fructo- and galacto-oligosaccharides (fructans and galactans), and polyols (such as sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol and maltitol) that are poorly absorbed in the small intestine.)

You now know about as much as me smile Looking at it on line I am sure, eventually, I will be able to check if I can tolerate some of the high FODMAP food - in spite of what my depressing doctor (she is lovely really) said.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 11-Jun-16 19:53:18

Oatcakes are useful.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 11-Jun-16 19:52:08

Why is bread 'quick'? Think of all that rising. confused

Ignore this if you don't want to answer Gracesgran, but do you have a particular health problem that restricts your diet? (I have silent reflux. My diet should possibly be restricted, but I refuse)

Gracesgran Sat 11-Jun-16 19:46:51

I'm afraid I can't watch programmes about food at the moment as my diet is so restricted I might droolgrin

I get strange thoughts like bread was so quick; yes I can eat potatoes but they are slow. Is slow food better than quick food - who knows? Have to have lactose free milk and lactose free spread and I am a no marge just butter person. However the spread is not so much of a problem with no bread to spread it on although I can have other things - generally oaty - but you can only eat so many oaty thingssmile I can have bacon and eggs for breakfast (until I find the bacon is on another list and I have missed it - oh please don't let that happenshock I am not sure how I learn all this - I can have blueberries but not blackberries ... how do they know? I have realised I should have enjoyed time I once spent with a dear friend discussing caramilising onions for French Onion Soup until the family cried enough! How can you cook without onions (or garlic) I can have the green bit of spring onions so not without all taste enhancing flavours. My doctor rang the other day with the result of a blood test (I have a feeling I am keeping a small vampire going at the moment) and nothing life threatening had showed up which is wonderful but may mean the diet for life. When I said "we will be adding some foods back in won't we" she said "probably not" talk about giving a person no hopeshock I don't really care as I am feeling sooooo much better. Going lactose free made a big difference in my energy levels so, if you can't eat onions perhaps you have to dance (watching the doggy legs of coursegrin)

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 11-Jun-16 19:08:01

Benecol spread, made from rapeseed oil, is delicious. And Bertolli, made with olive oil is excellent for baking.

Unsalted butter has no flavour whatsoever. It's just grease.

M0nica Sat 11-Jun-16 19:02:37

Rowantree, years ago I worked for Unilever and visited a margarine factory. I can assure you margarine is not made from petroleum products. It is made from vegetable oils. As I remember all kinds, in different proportions depending on their relative cost.

Like you I do not touch the stuff, I have yet to meet a butter alternative that was even faintly palatable.

I think the point of the mediterranean diet is that, yes, they do eat white bread, processed foods etc but a very high proportion of their diet is fruit and veg.

My feeling is that an excess of any food is bad for you. People have died because they consumed too much water and anyway we are all going to die at some point so eat what you like and if you remain healthy and well on your chosen diet then ignore all nutritionists and continue as you are. But if you are eating what you like and gaining weightt, developing high blood pressure and dianetes then reconsider what you are eating and see what changes lead to improved health.

GandTea Tue 07-Jun-16 21:33:51

I can understand that some of the additives used in processed meats may be carcinogenic. But surly things like bacon and ham that are traditionally cured, do not contain additives other than salt and sugar. I am probably wrong, but will blissfully eat them in moderation.

gettingonabit Tue 07-Jun-16 20:52:49

Processed meats are carcinogenic? confused.

Rowantree Tue 07-Jun-16 20:47:26

Why exactly is a mediterranean diet better? I get the fruit,veg, garlic and olive oil thing, completely - but in the med they drink lots of wine, eat lots of processed meats (hams, chorizo and so on) and eat white breads, pizza and so on. Yet we are told there is NO safe level of processed meats and that they are carcinogenic.
So....what's the true story with those and with alcohol, then?

I used to eat cholesterol-reducing marg instead of butter until I saw something on a tv programme which pointed out that if you leave out leftover marg for animals they won't go near it - they don't recognise it as a food. It's a gloopy product of the petroleum industry. I knew this before, but suddenly the penny dropped - and we now eat butter instead, in moderation, of course.

Persistentdonor Mon 06-Jun-16 09:19:58

Husband and I had seen all the info in collected in that programme so many times in other programmes.... we got to thinking it was just a good excuse for Fiona to travel round and round the UK meeting scientists..... then again anyone else would have been travelling the whole world to meet scientists so I suppose Fiona was quite controlled really. wink

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 05-Jun-16 10:24:12

Apologies for my very tired post last night. I did make a lot of typos!

I have just had my scrambled eggs made with a good dollop of olive oil marg. Very tasty they were too. smile

durhamjen to be fair on the subject of 'milks', cows' milk does contain a lot of other nutrients besides the calcium. I am going to try lacto free cows' mlk to see if it helps my little bit of trouble. Doubt if it will make any difference though. A sliding hernia is a sliding hernia. (I have diagnosed myself. No cameras involved. smile)

Blinko Sun 05-Jun-16 08:16:45

Cod liver oil and malt, virol, rose hip syrup and that orange juice that had to be diluted...takes yer back!

janeainsworth Sun 05-Jun-16 06:56:21

granjura Here's the gluten video I think you were referring to. Apologies to any genuine coeliacs out there.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oht9AEq1798

Re the programme, I thought it was simplistic - there are no healthy/ unhealthy foods, only healthy/unhealthy diets.
Yes coconut oil is expensive, but it makes stir-fried veg taste delicious.
Yes bacon and eggs for breakfast makes you feel full until lunchtime, but if (as said on the programme) it has 30g of protein, and you then have a 'normal' lunch and a 'normal' dinner, then you're quite possibly going to be eating more protein than is recommended........
Adding milk and butter to scrambled eggs doesn't make it unhealthy - does adding milk to tea, or putting butter on toast, make those unhealthy too?

durhamjen Sun 05-Jun-16 00:43:55

I have just bought Alpro almond milk for less than the equivalent organic milk.
It has 120 mg calcium per 100ml, whereas cow's milk has 124 mg, so not that much difference.
The almond milk has 0.38 micrograms of B12, cow's milk has between 0.4 and 0.8. Had to look that up because it does not say on the label.
No need to worry.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 04-Jun-16 22:36:30

I do not believe there is anything wrong with a couple of eggs scrambled in a bit of butter or margarine. What should a bit of fat turn them into something unhealthy? You're only going to use a small knob of it. hmm First world problems or what? hmm]

And as for larger oats being better fibre-wise than finely milled ones - No shit Sherlock who's have thought it! hmm

Legs55 Sat 04-Jun-16 22:25:04

I am Type 2 Diabetic & advice is to cut down sugar, main meal should be 1/4 protein (meat) 1/4 carbohydrate (potatoes etc) & 1/2 vegetables - watch portion size as most people put too much on their plate (we all hate waste so will finish whatever is put in front of us). I have some B Vitamins prescribed by GP, the body does not retain B Vitamins so it will only use what is required & get rid of any excess. I am taking Folic Acid as I have a slight B12 deficiency. Vitamin D is not a problem as I am outside in my garden at every opportunity (with sunscreen as I am very fair skinned) Eat 2 portions of fruit a day. I cannot drink milk (hate the taste remember school milk - tepid in summer) & don't like yogurt but love butter, cream & cheese. I believe in eating a sensible diet forget the fads, occasional treat won't kill you!!

Bellanonna Sat 04-Jun-16 20:21:37

Never tried paints. What are they like?

rosesarered Sat 04-Jun-16 20:21:28

Only in the affluent West could we all worry about food and vitamins, so although we are lucky, we need to have some common sense about it all.As other posters say, all things in moderation.Vitamins in food are absorbed so much better than taking tablets.

M0nica Sat 04-Jun-16 20:10:17

Eat well, not too much, most of it palnts.