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Cadbury's Current Owners Might Think Again.....

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mae13 Mon 23-Dec-24 17:15:04

........now that they've lost the Royal Warrant.
They've messed around too much with the Dairy Milk recipe - presumably ambitiously cutting corners in their profit chasing - and trashed a National Treasure.
Serves them right.

TerriBull Mon 23-Dec-24 17:25:49

I agree it was a cherished national brand before Kraft got their hands on it and it has gone down hill ever since.

Peter Mandelson was Business Secretary and at the time Labour backbenchers and Unions expressed fury at the government's failure to protect the British brand.

CanadianGran Mon 23-Dec-24 17:31:20

But does the Royal Warrant actually mean anything? Do you base purchases on it?

Moonwatcher1904 Mon 23-Dec-24 17:32:19

You're right there mae. Cadbury's chocolate has definitely changed over the last few years. I don't know which brand of chocolate I prefer. I have tried Hotel Chocolat but although they are nice not as exciting as they make out. I'd rather have a box of Maltesers.

Georgesgran Mon 23-Dec-24 17:41:03

I’ve just listened to a chap bemoaning Cadbury’s loss of the Warrant. He thinks the Crown should reconsider and the Warrant restored to preserve British jobs, Personally, I don’t get that it would make any difference.
DH’s company held the Royal Warrant, but it meant diddly squat to those we knew who purchased the product.

Allira Mon 23-Dec-24 18:45:22

Well, if the Royal Family doesn't like Cadbury's any more and perhaps doesn't like the way the management moved production overseas after specifically promising not to, why should they keep a Royal Warrant?

Lindt chocolate is much better.

Beechnut Mon 23-Dec-24 18:49:13

I prefer Lindt chocolate these days.

Freya5 Mon 23-Dec-24 18:52:28

CanadianGran

But does the Royal Warrant actually mean anything? Do you base purchases on it?

May be not, but yes it means prestige to the companies that have it. The Americans have made our iconic Cadbury chocolate into a disgusting hershey bar, so deserve the loss of status.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 23-Dec-24 18:52:29

Me too.
And Fry’s. 😁

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 23-Dec-24 18:52:53

*Lindt

Truffle43 Mon 23-Dec-24 19:15:00

I really dislike the taste of Cadburys chocolate now. I used to love it but since the recipe changed I cannot eat it. From being a huge fan eating loads of it I just stopped and never buy it.
I must admit I was pleased they lost the royal warranty for ruining my favourite chocolate bar. I know it’s mean but they should have asked me. Just joking . Before anyone tells me it will help my waistline I now eat magnums. Oh dear there is no hope.

Grunty Mon 23-Dec-24 19:19:56

Cadbury's chocolate has been vile ever since Mondelez took it over; America does many things well but chocolate isn't one of them. A lovely chocolate, that's creamy, full of flavour and with a good snap to it is Aldi's Moser Roth chocolate. 5 small individually wrapped bars within each pack. Around £2 and infinitely better quality than Cadbury's.

petal53 Mon 23-Dec-24 19:20:28

Lindt for me too.
Cadbury’s chocolate is nothing short of vile and disgusting.
It should never have been sold to the Americans.

Lathyrus3 Mon 23-Dec-24 19:32:35

I’ve just had one of the Cadbury’s Heroes that I bought for Xmas Day😳 I haven’t had anything Cadbury for ages.

It was absolutely tasteless.

Now feeling bad about putting them out for others.

On the plus side it means I won’t eat them up tonight😬

MissAdventure Mon 23-Dec-24 19:38:24

Ì love Cadbury chocolate.
Although the Adi ones always taste good, too.

ginny Mon 23-Dec-24 19:38:48

Cadburys is so different to how it used to be. Greasy and tasteless.

I like Lindt or Green & Black.

MissAdventure Mon 23-Dec-24 19:40:41

They only changed dairy milk, didn't they?
No reason the rest should be so apparently repulsive.

I stand to be corrected, of course.

Farzanah Mon 23-Dec-24 19:41:36

I don’t see why any so called British brands owned by giant US corporations should have a Royal Warrant. That’ll be none then I guess 🤔

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 23-Dec-24 19:45:53

This from The Independent is a very interesting read:

In probably the best lecture of my MBA programme, my professor told us: “Don’t chase big salaries. Focus on working for a company which is aligned to your values.” So when I was offered a job with Cadbury five years later, I couldn’t have been happier. The company always knew it was part of something bigger, which is why its Quaker founders built houses around its factory in Bournville back in 1880.

My job in the audit department was to make sure Cadbury was meeting its commitments on promoting its products ethically, manufacturing them sustainably and looking after its own employees. From the factory in Bucharest to the office in Lima, all my colleagues around the world felt immense pride in what our company was doing to build a better world – as well as giving us the chocolate we loved.

That all changed in January 2010, when we learned that Cadbury was to be taken over by Kraft.

Todd Stitzer, then CEO of the company, called a town hall meeting in our Uxbridge office, looking emotionally shattered. He and the board had done all they could to fight off the deal but were left with no choice but to accept an offer from Kraft on behalf of Cadbury shareholders.

A few days later the Kraft CEO, Irene Rosenfeld, came to meet us and made platitudes about the future. But we all knew things would never be the same: Cadbury’s deeply cherished corporate values were at risk of being discarded.

As in any takeover deal, the number one worry was jobs. Redundancies followed fast. At the time my first child was on the way, so I was happy to take some time out and was well looked after – but others were not.

As part of the deal Kraft claimed in official stock market announcements that the UK would be a “net beneficiary in terms of jobs” and, if it took over Cadbury, it would be “in a position to continue to operate its Somerdale factory near Bristol”. But its management knew the plans to close Somerdale were well advanced as it would have been part of due-diligence. No sooner was the deal done than Kraft proceeded with the plant closure, resulting in the loss of 500 jobs. It was censured by the Panel of Takeovers and Mergers as a result.

Meanwhile, Irene Rosenfeld said it “was not the best use of her personal time” to visit Parliament over this affair – behaviour which would never have been countenanced by the Cadbury executives I worked with at the company.

This week, Cadbury’s new owners announced that the confectioner is to drop its Fairtrade commitment, another broken promise to the Cadbury brand. It is a change which could hit cocoa farmers in their pockets, given they will not have the same guarantees over minimum income under a new ethical trading scheme announced by Cadbury’s now-owners Mondelez International.

Cadbury Dairy Milk has been Fairtrade since 2009, and was the first mainstream chocolate brand to become Fairtrade certified. My colleagues in the audit team who visited Ghana would tell of fascinating weekend visits to cocoa farms they knew the company was helping to support. Whatever its hardships, had Cadbury still been an independent British brand, it would never have dropped Fairtrade after all the hard work it had put in to achieve that label of ethical good business.

When it came to its employees, Cadbury always looked after its staff and alumni. Every Christmas, it would give thousands of long-term former employees a gift of chocolates at Christmas. Sadly, Mondelez International then scrapped this inexpensive goodwill gesture in an attempt to help plug a gap in its pension pot.

As an insider for 15 months, I witnessed the good that Cadbury did for its customers, its employees and the wider community. I felt proud to tell my friends that I worked for the brand. I was very sad the day I walked out of my office in Uxbridge for the last time – but to see what has been done to the company since I left is simply heartbreaking.

Chris Key is a former senior internal audit manager at Cadbury, covering Europe and Latin America

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 23-Dec-24 19:46:48

Me? I just find it greasy. What have they put in it to make it so?
Must check.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 23-Dec-24 19:50:54

Ha!

“Cadbury has changed their recipe over time primarily to adapt to consumer demands for healthier options, often by reducing sugar content while still maintaining a recognizable taste, sometimes leading to complaints from customers who prefer the original taste; this change is often driven by concerns about nutrition and the desire to cater to a wider market.”

Well no-one eats CHOCOLATE to be healthy do they? 🤣
It’s a treat!
Corporate bull** I’m sceptical.
In all likelihood the recipe has been changed to maximise profit margins.

I doubt very much that the CEOs care much about our waistlines.

TerriBull Mon 23-Dec-24 20:25:04

I only really like bog standard chocolate, none of that good quality high cocoa solid posh choc. for me thanks. So I opt for Cadburys but it's not what it was since Kraft got their hands on it. which isn't surprising given Kraft is an American brand. I couldn't believe how awful their chocolate is when I first went to the US. I'll have to give Aldis a go. I hasten to add chocolate is an occasional treat, but of course grin

Grunty Mon 23-Dec-24 20:34:37

Me? I just find it greasy. What have they put in it to make it so?
Must check.

Palm oil. And it's no longer "a glass and a half of milk in every bar". It's just a greasy, sickly slab of tasteless junk now.

Poppyred Mon 23-Dec-24 20:41:22

I still love Cadbury’s chocolate, and really don’t like Lindt.

MissAdventure Mon 23-Dec-24 20:42:49

In 2009, Cadbury removed palm oil from its Dairy Milk chocolate bars after pressure from the Auckland Zoo in New Zealand. The zoo removed Cadbury's products from its gift shops because of concerns about deforestation and habitat loss caused by large-scale palm oil plantations.
Cadbury had previously added palm oil to some of its non-UK chocolate products in mid-2009 to reduce the weight and cost of the product. Palm oil is sometimes used as a filler for cocoa mass in chocolate.
Cadbury's decision to remove palm oil came after the company faced consumer protests over its use of "certified" palm oil. The palm oil industry has been working with green groups to establish environmental standards for palm oil production.