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I love the smell of Tiger Balm in the morning OR The JOYS OF SUMMER

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Bags Fri 27-Apr-12 08:12:58

Definitely summer when the garden beastie bites start to itch and the Tiger Balm is in constant demand! Did some hedging yesterday and some of the wee critters whose homes I was disturbing got cross wink!

Definitely summer when, even though the outside temperature was only 2.7°C when I got up at six, by seven thirty it had gone up by three degrees. And it's still going up under a summer sky.

Definitely summer when I can do a stint of mowing one day and a stint of hedging the next and my chest doesn't hurt later on smile sunshine.

Nonu Sun 13-May-12 18:52:01

BUTTERNUT I would love you to see our garden , you are a gardner too ? It is a wonderful pastime isn"t it

Butternut Sun 13-May-12 18:48:17

I like the sound of your garden, nonu - and am very fond of moss, too! smile

Nonu Sun 13-May-12 16:58:25

I may be right or wrong but it seems to me the thinking nowadays is for more natural , wildflowers etc. we have got a heck of a lot of moss in our grass but I am bound to say I don"t dislike it
a] it is quite pretty
b] get nice green colour which our garden struggles for

Our garden has just seemed to evolve in own little way and I am chuffed to bits with it we have only been doing it for about the last 6 yearsI

soop Sun 13-May-12 16:43:42

As a child, I lived in a village named Weston Favell. A farmer had a meadow that was thickly carpeted with cowslips. I used to dance bare-foot in Cowslip Meadow. Such a lovely memory of some sixty five years standing. smile

Elegran Sun 13-May-12 12:07:28

Lost a post somewhere, could have sworn I sent it.

Bags They are so widely scattered that it would just look as though I had been drunk in charge of the mower, and the dandelions would take over the long patches. They are barely kept in check by he mowing.

Bags Sun 13-May-12 09:06:15

An alternative would be to mow around them. If you have clearly mowed some of your grass but left patches where the flowers are, why would anyone mind?

Beats me why people fuss about long grass anyway. If you look closely, flowering grass is actually very beautiful.

Bags Sun 13-May-12 09:04:27

Yes, transplant them, elegran. I did that with some cowslips in my last garden and they did really well, especially as I carefully collected some seed and sowed that in pots.

Elegran Sun 13-May-12 08:54:49

A scattering of primrose seedlings has appeared in my lawn - small square one in front garden, near a busy road, no woods close by for them to have spread from, no-one that I can see has primroses in their front gardens. they look like wild pale yellow ones.

They won't survive there, as I can't leave the lawn uncut for them to develop and grow. Will they transplant OK to somewhere more convenient? Could be tricky getting a plug out of the matted grass roots.

Bags Sun 13-May-12 06:22:40

Nothing delicate, except looks perhaps, about any plant that grows in nutrient poor soil, surely! Those are the Survivors if they can thrive where even grass finds it difficult! One of my favourite flowers is the harebell. Very dleicate-looking but it grows in harsh places.

My 'lawn' is more moss than grass and what grasses there are are the kind of wild grasses people don't usually want in their gardens. Maybe that helps. I haven't planted or sown anything in it. Flowers have just appeared so I expect they seeded themselves and thrived during the quarter century when the garden was neglected. Perhaps many garden lawns are just too well cared for, de-mossed and so forth so the grass has taken over. I always favoured "greensward" rather than grass. Worked in my Oxfordshire garden too, though the wild flowers that thrived there were different from what does well in Argyll.

You have to expect things you don't want a lot of too, such as dock and sorrel.

JessM Sat 12-May-12 21:28:25

One of the issues with wild flower meadows is that they need to be mown after the flowers have bloomed and set seed. Or mowed is it?
The other is fertility. On a lush well fertilised bit of lawn the grass will out compete wild flowers. On impoverished soil you get great wild flowers and lousy grass.
On chalk uplands the traditional farming method was to graze the sheep on the uplands by day and then take them down onto the agricultural land which they would "fertilise" at night. Thus the uplands were slowly deprived of nutrients and now are great flower habitats.
There is a wild flower called Yellow Rattle that is very nutrient hungry apparently, so that is a good one to sow. It will strip the nutrients and make it harder for the grass to succeed.
Cowslips seem to compete fairly well with grass, so worth a try as plugs.
But again - you see them on motorway side slopes, which are presumably not well endowed with nutrients.
Dog daisies are pretty determined - I once deliberately planted some and they are intent of world dominion. So they might be another good one. But they will beat everything else into submission if mine are anything to go by. Nothing delicate about them.
Poppies need broken soil - but if you have some, just a scattering of seeds and away they go.

Butternut Sat 12-May-12 20:35:11

Here some info. Jeni - and is it 'mowed' or 'mown'

apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?pid=446

Bags Sat 12-May-12 20:28:02

Summer is shorter here so September is fine for ours. It's just a case of letting the seed ripen and drop from the flowers that are already there. Depending what species you have, you can mow in early spring too.

jeni Sat 12-May-12 20:25:20

October!

Bags Sat 12-May-12 20:24:07

smile

Butternut Sat 12-May-12 20:23:43

Doesn't it depend at what time of year it is mowed. I seem to remember that being crucial. Don't know when though.

jeni Sat 12-May-12 20:20:44

I've scattered sees, no result! Have now ordered plugs, watch this space ( lawn)

Bags Sat 12-May-12 20:10:58

You could also sow your legitimately bought wild flower seed in pots and do the same as above.

Bags Sat 12-May-12 20:10:12

You're not, but you can collect wild seed, grow some plants in pots and then plug them in your lawn. There are also places you can legitimately buy wild flower plugs.

jeni Sat 12-May-12 19:18:53

I didn't think you were allowed to dig up wild flowers?

Bags Sat 12-May-12 19:04:55

A flower friend of mine in Oxfordshire said plant 'plugs' work better than seeds.

Bags Sat 12-May-12 19:03:58

Are there wild flowers nearby on farmland or verges?

jeni Sat 12-May-12 19:02:40

It gets mowed once a year inoct!

Bags Sat 12-May-12 18:14:27

If you just don't mow it things might turn up.

jeni Sat 12-May-12 18:05:53

Well my wild flower meadow is just grassso far. I had oxeyes last year but now. Zilch, nada, rien. The fritillaries are nice, but am I going to have to revert to boring old lawn?
I've sent off for some plugs,but if they don't work, lawn it will have to be sad

Butternut Sat 12-May-12 17:51:03

You're very kind soop. Both you and B do hear me, which I appreciate.