Well, thank you to all who posted when I started them off, my first attempt at growing from seed! 
The best ones are now over 7ft tall
haven't managed to get up the step ladder for accurate measurements, and seem to be setting multiple flowers!
The village competition closes on August 15th, don't think I will win, but have given it a good go!
Very chuffed!
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I'm not a mutant, honestly!
we had strong wind over yesterday and last night, (not Mr P and I personally , you understand, just weatherwise) and they have broken! Even the supporting canes snapped 