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How do I get rid of these alliums?

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AskAlice Sat 27-May-23 16:46:02

I may have mentioned previously that I made the mistake of planting two little groups of tiny allium bulbs that I got in a mixed bag from a flower show.

Now the little blighters are everywhere and crowding out other plants in the border. They are pretty, but the leaves just flop all over the place when they flower and smother everything else.

I have been digging them out in clumps, but they are growing around the shrubs and I don't want to lose the beautiful fuchsia (Mrs P Wood) and rhododendron (Bow Bells) that I have carefully nurtured.

Does anyone know if I could maybe use a contact weedkiller on the allium leaves next year when they come through, before the shrubs start into growth? Would this kill the bulbs, or do I have to just try to keep them under control by digging them out constantly?

Norah Mon 29-May-23 14:24:03

Not an answer to the alliums post, at all.

However, tomatoes grow particularly well in wild fields. Fruit dropped from the plants provide seeds in the next season. I wander round and tie wild tomato plants to lengths of fallen branches - voila free tomatoes.

Of course, we also grow in pots for enough to last the year.

Callistemon21 Mon 29-May-23 15:16:18

Getting back to the alliums - I'm sure there were 7 last year and I can only see 6 this years.
We obviously have the wrong soil for alliums

AskAlice Tue 30-May-23 18:54:05

I have had a change of plan! After the little alliums have finished flowering next month I'm going to go in with a vengeance. Dig the whole areas apart from that immediately among the established shrubs and perennials, sieve out all the bulbs and bulblets (is that a proper word?) and only keep the large ones. They are Purple Sensation and I have eight this year, up on the three I had last year. I am determined to get on top of the problem. Callistemon, the soil where all my alliums are growing is quite poor and very stony. I did put a home-made compost mulch on it last year but it was only a very thin layer as most of it goes on my raised veg beds. Maybe you'll get a surprise next year, as I did this year!

Callistemon21 Tue 30-May-23 19:58:59

Mine's clay but has had a lot of compost added to it, AskAlice

I must say I was disappointed that they hadn't spread. I dont have success with soring onions either.
Yet our chives spread everywhere, in the cracks between slabs is best.

Callistemon21 Tue 30-May-23 19:59:18

Spring onions ...

Norah Thu 01-Jun-23 21:26:47

Germanshepherdsmum

That sounds brilliant Norah. The roses are wonderful too this year. All very natural here though - I would never win an award for garden design. Almost everything seeding where it wants is welcome - forgetmenots, alliums, poppies, aquilegias, foxgloves, cow parsley, hardy geraniums, English bluebells, valerian, toadflax, you name it. If it seeds somewhere that means it’s happy there and that’s fine with me.

Thank you. It is lovely.

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Jun-23 21:31:12

Spread home-made compost around and you'll find tomato plants popping up everywhere.

One year we had a magnificent spaghetti squash plant growing in the vegetable plot but goodness knows where the seed came from.

Norah Thu 01-Jun-23 21:37:23

It's a lovely mess.

Katie59 Fri 02-Jun-23 07:09:57

I would treat them as I treat Bindweed tease the leaves out then gives the a dab or squirt of glyphosate kills the leaves and roots with very little effort

VB000 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:40:10

Germanshepherdsmum

That sounds brilliant Norah. The roses are wonderful too this year. All very natural here though - I would never win an award for garden design. Almost everything seeding where it wants is welcome - forgetmenots, alliums, poppies, aquilegias, foxgloves, cow parsley, hardy geraniums, English bluebells, valerian, toadflax, you name it. If it seeds somewhere that means it’s happy there and that’s fine with me.

Sounds lovely - mine is similar, not over-managed. Currently borders are full of self-seeded aquilegias, love-in-the-mist (nigella), foxgloves and a pretty quaking grass. All less to maintain!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 02-Jun-23 11:26:02

Perfect VB000. A lovely colourful jumble of flowers that are happy side by side. Very little maintenance needed, more time to enjoy!

MaizieD Fri 02-Jun-23 11:40:36

Your garden sounds like mine, GSM. I also have some very handsome, tall, twitch grass, nettles and an unidentified but vigorous weed lurking in the melee. And goose grass (cleavers, sticky jacks) swamping whatever it can grin

I find that this lessee faire gardening, though very pretty) still requires a significant amount of effort...

(and if anyone can instruct me on how to place accents in French words I'd be grateful ..)

P.S anyone worried about the loss of nettles to nurture butterfly caterpillars, I have plenty more out in my few acres...

VB000 Fri 02-Jun-23 12:41:55

MaizieD - found this -

Try these Windows ALT codes for French accent marks by just using your number pad:

Alt+0233 (é)
Alt+0224 (à)
Alt+0232 (è)
Alt+0249 (ù)
Alt+0226 (â)
Alt+0234 (ê)
Alt+0238 (î)
Alt+0244 (ô)

MaizieD Sat 03-Jun-23 09:20:53

VB000

MaizieD - found this -

Try these Windows ALT codes for French accent marks by just using your number pad:

Alt+0233 (é)
Alt+0224 (à)
Alt+0232 (è)
Alt+0249 (ù)
Alt+0226 (â)
Alt+0234 (ê)
Alt+0238 (î)
Alt+0244 (ô)

Thanks flowers

AskAlice Sun 05-May-24 18:29:39

An update on those blooming (literally!) alliums...

Yesterday I spent the best part of 3 hours in one patch of my beds on hands and knees digging up the little blighters. I was very careful to take them out in clumps without shaking off the soil (it's easier before they flower as the leaves are still attached to the bulbs and don't just come away and leave the bulbs behind.) Lots of bugle was disturbed, which I planted the year before last and has spread, and this was replanted in clumps. There are still lots of alliums left, as I have self-seeded foxgloves in abundance which are interspersed with the oniony thugs. I will wait until the foxgloves have finished, save their seeds and then dig them up and try to dig up some more of the alliums.

In another part of the same bed, I have decided to leave the ones growing around the roots of my beautiful Mrs P Woods fuchsia as I think they protect the new growth in early spring but I will make sure I pull out the flowering stalks before they set seed. The rest will be attacked later this week when my back has recovered a bit, trying to avoid digging up the Purple Sensation ones which I love and are not thuggish.

I've been to the Knebworth Flower Show this afternoon and bought Gaura, Lupins, marigolds (to plant around my tomatoes) and a couple of sempervivums.

I will be busy this week!