Grandparents rights

I too am speechless. @inbetween. Not all circumstances are the same, for grandparents or for the parents. You've got a bee In Your bonnet about your resentment.

This question is often asked. I believe the answer may be that nobody has "rights" except the children's parents.

I know I don't want "rights" over anything not mine. Maybe who owns the "rights" is to the point.

This thread was originally posted 10 years ago

Yes, but I'm sure we could still get three days' worth of arguments out of it.

This my not be the same thing, but I think that grandparents do have some rights in relation to their grandchildren in some circumstances.

I say this because I knew someone whose daughter had a child out of wedlock and social services were pushing for the child to be adopted. And the child's grandmother objected and said she would bring up the child. Social services, I was told, tried to convince the grandmother, at the time in her early sixties and on her own, to "be reasonable" and sign a piece of paper declaring whatever it was, and she refused. And she took the child in and brought the child up.

So it seems she did have some rights, else the child would have been adopted against the grandmother's wishes. I don't know the whole circumstances, but I do know that the child's mother was not dead, as the mother and child met at some later time.

MissAdventure

Yes, but I'm sure we could still get three days' worth of arguments out of it.

You may well be right there!

I have never seen my grandson who was born 22/03/22. My son is not on the birth certificate, they were never married. My son's ex girlfriend left him when she was eight months pregnant and accused him of all kinds of bad things. We went to court for the anti molestation order and it was thrown out due to lack of evidence on 08/06/22. There are no legal rights for grandparents to see their grandchildren and we have to deal with filling in forms and seeking permission from the court because the ex girlfriend has blocked all family members from her and the child.
I am devastated. There's no need for this since we all treated the ex girlfriend with respect and kindness.

Are you in the UK dante because unfortunately, to have any hope of being able to see your grandson, you'll need to prove and existing and consistent relationship before you were prevented from seeing him.

Evidence of such a relationship is required by the courts to consider whether not you'll be granted permission to go to the next stage.

As your son is not on the birth certificate, DNA testing would in all probability be required to prove that he is the father of this child and from what you've posted, that doesn't look something the mother would agree too unless ordered by the courts.

Inbetween I'm of the opinion that GP's shouldn't have rights .
Its up to the parents who their children see and when.I used to step in when my in-laws insisted on cuddles and kisses and my kids didnt want to kiss grandpa .Why should they be made to? I wouldn't want to kiss someone just because they thought I should.
It didn't make me popular with my FIL but at that stage of our relationship he couldn't stand me anyway ,so no change there .
An awful lot of GP's think they should make the decisions instead of the parents ,dont let them .
I see my GC a lot and always have ,but I dont and never have overstepped the mark .Its mums rules always ,even in my house and thats how it should be .